Wednesday, December 10, 2008

Blast from the past

Rumours are circulating in Conservative circles that former four-term Reform/Alliance/Conservative MP Paul Forseth is interested in taking on Peter Julian for the Burnaby-New Westminster riding in the next federal election.

Forseth was defeated by a 3000-vote margin in the 2006 election in New Westminster-Coquitlam by Dawn Black, who made a successful return to Parliament after two previous losses to Forseth in 1993 and 1997.

Forseth did not run in October's election. Prior to public life Forseth was a probation officer.

19 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumours are just a waste of time
unless they are proven.

Let's see if he files for the nomination first.

12/10/2008 6:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, I also agree.

However, I dont see the possibility of Paul defeating Peter in this riding, unless of course Liberals decide to back Paul!? Or worse, if NDP-LIB decide to joint nominate!!?? Then Peter can forget about getting re-elected. But I guess that goes to show you that not that many in Peter's riding would actually fathom running with the government party, other than Paul Forseth who wont mind losing again anyway.

12/10/2008 6:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would the Liberals back a Conservative??

They will run their own candidate.

YOu're talking dumb if you figure the NDP and Liberals will have a "joint" candidate. Both parties'
constitutions require candidates in their own party's name for federal elections, and there isn't any indication that will change.

More silly talk based on this 'coalition' concept.

12/10/2008 7:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"constitutions require candidates in their own party's name for federal elections, and there isn't any indication that will change."
Oh, right, like how Elizabeth May decided run under Liberal banner in her riding? Or how NDP "requires" the Prime Minister they support to carry its own party membership. Talk about being naive.

12/10/2008 7:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, right, like how Elizabeth May decided run under Liberal banner in her riding? Or how NDP "requires" the Prime Minister they support to carry its own party membership. Talk about being naive.

Well you're forgetting one thing, several in fact.

1. The Elizabeth May situation was
a one time thing, and wasn't approved by the membership. It was done by Stephane Dion. Obvously it didn't work, and will most likely
not be repeated under Iggy's leadership (May will be on her own).

Elizabeth May did not run as a Liberal, she ran as a Green Candidate as leader. She also represented the Greens in the CBC
National Debate.


2. On your second point, why would Iggy take on an NDP Membership? The Constitution of the federal Liberals prohibit membership in another federal party.

Talk about naive.

12/10/2008 8:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Forseth runs against Julian, I can only hope the Liberals come up with someone better than the clown they ran last election. I mean this guy finished 7000 votes behind Sam Rakhra. If Rakhra can do that well against him, Forseth will obliterate him.

12/11/2008 8:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't bet the rent on that.

It's rather silly for someone who last ran in 2005, to skip an election and come back hoping to win again.

Very difficult to do.

But you're always coming up with these silly political ideas.

Get out of the house and enjoy the snow.

Don't be a political nerd.

and launder your shirts. Nerds are notorious for not smelling nice.

12/11/2008 9:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agree..

Smell ya later.

12/11/2008 10:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I resent the last comments about nerds, I am a nerd and I shower at least once a week whether I need it or not!

Nerds Unite!

12/14/2008 10:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Um, the idea is to shower once a day..

...with lots of soap and hot water...

12/14/2008 10:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and be sure to clean and soap "down there".

No sense in scratching around there in public if you become itchy.

12/15/2008 6:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is undoubtedly the best analysis and news site I have found.
Robert Burnaby deserves our highest praise.

12/18/2008 11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is craptacular isn't it?

12/18/2008 7:22 PM  
Blogger barbara said...

Even though I live on the side of New West not under Julian,I do see and hear his name a lot,always in a good report.He seems to be very active and hard working.Perhaps if Forseth does run in that riding he won't have a chance, if we are lucky.When he was my M.P. something about him and his party made my skin crawl--even his 'newsletter' was called " The Informer".How creepy is that?

12/23/2008 10:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"When he was my M.P. something about him and his party made my skin crawl"

Very interesting comment. Some politicians naturally make people's skins crawl, as many NDP activists feel the same way towards our premier.

But do not be despair. Peter Julian has never commanded a mandate in the riding, and will never reach the 50% threshold. Shall he decide to run for mayor in 2011 I suspect him to be defeated soundly.

However, I guess we all know by now the the conservatives have finally obtained their own Urban Senator in the form of a Korean Canadian. If utilized wisely, I expect the NDP/BCA ethnic base to start to dissolve on the east side of the riding. While on the west side of the riding where the Chinese Canadians tend to populate and they will likely decide the outcome of the election.

As many people refuse to believe it, the Chinese Canadians are the ones that almost put Ronald Leung through to the Harper cabinet. We feel the same way towards Dr. Leung the black people do in American towards Obama who has received 90% of the support African American community wide.

I would go one step even further and say that if with the city now populated over 50% by visible minority, tories should proceed with their strategy in nominating two ethnic candidates against two Caucasian incumbents.

It will not surprise me if conservatives can two double Chinese candidates taking the two NDP incumbents head on. Peter Julian had never any strong traction in the community from the start. If someone like, say, Anne Kang who is by far the most influential Chinese Canadian in the south part of the city, decides to run against Peter Julian, there will be no doubt that she will have enough support from both sides to retire Peter Julian from office in the next election. Rather than trying to wait Peter Julian to serve out his term with NDP, Anne Kang will be smart to run with the government and put herself very possibly in high offices given her very strong influences in the Chinese community. And I would certainly welcome Anne Kang represent that part of the city as she is simply a political star in the making given the right opportunity.

12/25/2008 3:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Very interesting comment. Some politicians naturally make people's skins crawl, as many NDP activists feel the same way towards our premier. "

Some non NDPers feel that same thing towards our Premier, especially in regards to the carbon tax.

"But do not be despair. Peter Julian has never commanded a mandate in the riding, and will never reach the 50% threshold."

Wrong. he did win the election and therefore does have a mandate to represent the people in his riding.

"Shall he decide to run for mayor in 2011 I suspect him to be defeated soundly. "

So who says he will?

However, I guess we all know by now the the conservatives have finally obtained their own Urban Senator in the form of a Korean Canadian.

Hold on there Cowboy. There's already one other "Urban Sentor" in the name of Mobina Jaffer.

If utilized wisely, I expect the NDP/BCA ethnic base to start to dissolve on the east side of the riding.

Not going to happen.

"While on the west side of the riding where the Chinese Canadians tend to populate and they will likely decide the outcome of the election. "

They might, but not all of them vote the same party.

"As many people refuse to believe it, the Chinese Canadians are the ones that almost put Ronald Leung through to the Harper cabinet."

Wrong. if there's any validity, it would be Leung almost won Burnaby Douglas, a cabinet post is not part of the equation.



We feel the same way towards Dr. Leung the black people do in American towards Obama who has received 90% of the support African American community wide.

Silly statement. Since there are other Chinese Cdns serving in
the House of Commons.

"I would go one step even further and say that if with the city now populated over 50% by visible minority, tories should proceed with their strategy in nominating two ethnic candidates against two Caucasian incumbents. "

Wrong. It's best to find the best people regardless of what origin they might be. Never ever put one
race against another. We've been down that road before. Twice.



It will not surprise me if conservatives can two double Chinese candidates taking the two NDP incumbents head on. Peter Julian had never any strong traction in the community from the start.

Considering that a few Chinese Caandians had voted for him in 2008, that had to be part of his large
vote count, the statement isn't valid.



"If someone like, say, Anne Kang who is by far the most influential Chinese Canadian in the south part of the city, decides to run against Peter Julian, there will be no doubt that she will have enough support from both sides to retire Peter Julian from office in the next election."

Who cares if she is "most influential"? The candidate will have to win the hearts and minds of all voters, not just one specific group.


"Rather than trying to wait Peter Julian to serve out his term with NDP, Anne Kang will be smart to run with the government and put herself very possibly in high offices given her very strong influences in the Chinese community."


So its now Anne Kang now is it?
before it was Ronald Leung.

"And I would certainly welcome Anne Kang represent that part of the city as she is simply a political star in the making given the right opportunity."

She hasn't done anything yet for the city as a whole.

12/31/2008 2:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and the appointment of Yonah Martin to the Senate?

Another reason why the Senate needs to be elected or abolished entirely.

Her and Mobina Jaffer have to be the best reasons for that to happen.

12/31/2008 3:17 PM  
Anonymous Chavezispt said...

and the appointment of Yonah Martin to the Senate? Another reason why the Senate needs to be elected or abolished entirely. Her and Mobina Jaffer have to be the best reasons for that to happen.

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