Saturday, July 07, 2007

Kermode, the Olympic Spirit Bear?

News is slow at the end of the Olympic meetings so the Vancouver Sun is reporting the 2010 mascots are field-tested and ready for launch.

Chances are the Olympic mascot will not be a 201-metre long lopsided budget book named Furlong. And unless VANOC goes with the underdog (or -squirrel as the case may be) and picks the Hoary Marmot, risking the possibly ridicule of people who mispronounce "Hoary," things are looking good for another BC creature. The odds on favourite for the Olympic mascot is the Spirit Bear. Given it sounds like there will be two mascots (perhaps in the tradition of the 1988 Calgary Olympics), the naming contests should allow British Columbians an opportunity to express their creativity.

32 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Distant speculation.

At least Burnaby won't be stuck with a mascot marmont named
Hoary Bloy.

7/07/2007 8:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Huh. Thats not even clever.

7/08/2007 8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmm....I wonder if Burnabians remember the name of the mayor that allowed Richmond to buy off VANOC and take the oval away. That alone can put many NDPers out of jobs. And someone mentioned DC is going to run in the nearby riding? Wait till the voters are reminded of such incident and let BCL pick him apart.

Argentina president's party just nominated the First Lady to be the candidate for the next election and vowed never to let the people see corruptions in the government again. But even if Kathy blocks the Dan "Al Gore" Johnson to win the mayoral nomination? She would have not chance preventing the demise of BCA in 2011 as the voters suddenly remembered where the legacy that's supposed to be in their city have been bought off somewhere else. Hmm, one wonder whose fault it is.

7/08/2007 8:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Hmm....I wonder if Burnabians remember the name of the mayor that allowed Richmond to buy off VANOC and take the oval away."

Wonder if the above writer remembers that the Oval was not explicitly guranteed to Burnaby in the first place.

It was the NDP after all that started the quest for the bid.


"That alone can put many NDPers out of jobs."

Let alone some BCL types that are looking for political goodies.


And someone mentioned DC is going to run in the nearby riding? Wait till the voters are reminded of such incident and let BCL pick him apart.

Assuming that the BCL knows how to do that without Harry Bloy and his Bloy Buddies.

"Argentina president's party just nominated the First Lady to be the candidate for the next election and vowed never to let the people see corruptions in the government again. But even if Kathy blocks the Dan "Al Gore" Johnson to win the mayoral nomination?"

Who says she has any say in how the BCA nominates? Compared to the convient "placement" of Patty Sahota by the Harry Bloy types to
"set the nomination right", the BCA
would be far more democratic.

"She would have not chance preventing the demise of BCA in 2011 as the voters suddenly remembered where the legacy that's supposed to be in their city have been bought off somewhere else."

Niether would Harry Bloy since it is up to the voter to decide who ends up on council and mayor, not some MLA.

"Hmm, one wonder whose fault it is. "

Probably the writer of the above for coming up with such a silly hypothesis in the first place.

7/08/2007 10:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Wonder if the above writer remembers that the Oval was not explicitly guranteed to Burnaby in the first place.

It was the NDP after all that started the quest for the bid."

You mean NDP is now going after Campbell's legacy, no, really? Let us not forget about the skytrain extension too. Glen Clark certainly had a wonderful government all the way until 2001 didnt he, well, at least according to the NDP.

Back to the oval that Richmond bought off VANOC for, yes, Burnaby mayor "tried" hard to keep it in Burnaby, he even went on the community paper to tell his city voters how angry he was with the whole fiasco. But I guess that was not enough to let VANOC keep the promise that was made long before they went back on it.

So what happened, did Burnaby residents forget the whole thing? Are DC & Co all well and forgiven? With the municipal election coming up 13 months before the Olympics, one can certainly associate this incident with improper governance, but I am sure BCA will find the right excuses to convince people that it's not their fault.

As for the mayoral candidate for 2008, if Derek decides to skip BCA nomination and go directly for a MLA backbencher nomination race, he cant be naive to think that his wife will automatically get the nomination upon the arrival of his order, and she is no Hillary Clinton. Not to mention it will further unite the right, I would say that Derek Corrigan will take the safe route to run for re-election, compatible with his dictating personality and age (a defeat like his fellow councillor Peitro has will take him out of contention indefinitely). But will the voters give a 52% mayor another chance after a business friendly Richmond Mayor beats him to the Oval? Not if Harry Bloy makes sure he gets defeated.

7/08/2007 10:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Who says she has any say in how the BCA nominates? Compared to the convient "placement" of Patty Sahota by the Harry Bloy types to
"set the nomination right", the BCA
would be far more democratic."

Not only will Kathy have no say in the nomination process, she will risk embarrassment if she decides to go up against a rival councilor. She will have a better chance beating the Richard Lee to become MLA than becoming a Corrigan successor (that is likely never).

As for Patty Sahota, guess who is the newest addition to BVA group on facebook, and it is neither Patty nor Harry. But make no mistake, shall she decide to run, she'll have more than enough support to win the nomination. And for a ex-MInister of Resort Development, i guess some people are just better at bringing in business deals, and some people are just as good in giving them away.

7/08/2007 10:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Back to the oval that Richmond bought off VANOC for, yes, Burnaby mayor "tried" hard to keep it in Burnaby, he even went on the community paper to tell his city voters how angry he was with the whole fiasco.

Corrigan was never for the Olympics right from day one


"But I guess that was not enough to let VANOC keep the promise that was made long before they went back on it."

As said, it was a proposal, not a promise. In these types of projects
things can change, and unfortunately for Burnaby they did.

Richmond did what they should have done, lobby for it, Burnaby did not.

"So what happened, did Burnaby residents forget the whole thing?"

Pretty much.

"Are DC & Co all well and forgiven? With the municipal election coming up 13 months before the Olympics, one can certainly associate this incident with improper governance, but I am sure BCA will find the right excuses to convince people that it's not their fault."

Interesting that it never came up
in 2005, an election during which was the end portion of the lobby
process.

for Burnaby voters, it would be
a non-issue since civic elections are more on local goverance issues.

"As for the mayoral candidate for 2008, if Derek decides to skip BCA nomination and go directly for a MLA backbencher nomination race, he cant be naive to think that his wife will automatically get the nomination upon the arrival of his order, and she is no Hillary Clinton."

Kind of nutty scenario since you're equating some kind of Bill and Hill succession, which simply would not happen.

"Not to mention it will further unite the right, I would say that Derek Corrigan will take the safe route to run for re-election, compatible with his dictating personality and age (a defeat like his fellow councillor Peitro has will take him out of contention indefinitely)."

Not nessesarily. Corrigan could
retire, but if the that happens, the BCA will no doubt find someone who they know will keep the Mayor's seat.

"But will the voters give a 52% mayor another chance after a business friendly Richmond Mayor beats him to the Oval? "

Possible, since the Oval never came up much in 2005, and less so
in 2008, since it's already a bit of a non-issue for Burnaby voters.


"Not if Harry Bloy makes sure he gets defeated. "

So is this what this is about? Harry didn't get to be an official at the SFU Oval's opening?

There's more to opposition to the
BCA than Harry Bloy.

In fact some non-BCA candidates can get elected without the help of Harry Bloy and his minions.

7/09/2007 7:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Not only will Kathy have no say in the nomination process, she will risk embarrassment if she decides to go up against a rival councilor."

She doesn't now. It's up to the members to decide who wins the nomination, not Kathy Corrigan.

The BCA is not dumb, they can and have and will do what they can to keep their seats. They were markedly weak in 2005, but they will be stronger in 2008.

Be there when it happens.

"She will have a better chance beating the Richard Lee to become MLA than becoming a Corrigan successor (that is likely never)."

Would dubt she would try for that anyway, since she has no experience on council and seems to be doing okay on School Board.

"As for Patty Sahota, guess who is the newest addition to BVA group on facebook, and it is neither Patty nor Harry."

Huh? The BVA has not existed since
c. 2000.

What would Facebook have to do with civic politics? It's nothing more than a pictorial list of friends and those in a network.

Facebook has minimal value to the voters, beyond something like "Look at me! I'm in Facebook!"

What possible worth could that be to the voter?


"But make no mistake, shall she decide to run, she'll have more than enough support to win the nomination."

Winning the nomination is one thing, winning the election is quite another.

She wouldn't get my vote (both in nomination or as a voter)

"And for a ex-MInister of Resort Development, i guess some people are just better at bringing in business deals, and some people are just as good in giving them away. "

For the Ex-Minister of Resort Development, some MLAs are given last minute political goodies, and some MLAs just keep working hard for their constituents and not worrying about getting a last minute political goodie.

7/09/2007 7:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man this thing regarding this Harry Bloy guy and his favorite candidate Patty Sahota is getting tiring.

Why not get Lee Rankin to run for mayor for Team Burnaby, leave who ever this Harry Bloy guy is out of it, and let's get on with building Burnaby?

Keep things simple.

7/09/2007 8:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Why not get Lee Rankin to run for mayor for Team Burnaby, leave who ever this Harry Bloy guy is out of it, and let's get on with building Burnaby?"

I thought we have been through why a former BCA city councilor that served under DC wont be running against the sitting mayor, unless DC announces he wont run for re-election, which is highly unlikely no matter how much people expect/want him to go, he will stay and run along with his wife in 2008.

On the issue of Patty Sahota running for mayor, for those who still cant see it coming, BCL MLA's are starting to come together and may soon decide also participate in the municipal elections as the NDP MLA's and MP's did. For the first time in many years, BCL MLA's are actually going to stand up for themselves and take the NDP's head on. And if they decide to support an under-40 female mayor from South Asian community which is representative of Burnaby population at large against an ailing incumbent, that is certainly a great thing to see.

A victory against BCA in 2008 will take alotta wind out of NDP and given that a federal election is also around the block, NDP MP's may be busy enough deflecting so that can finally take a break from municipal elections. Expect to see great firework if Raj Choujan decides, too, to join the campaign , not even DC can match Raj and his friends in getting the votes.

7/09/2007 11:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So let's hear one more time how Richmond bought the Olympic Speed Skating.
Last I heard Richmond is spending 60-80 Million of civic money on it in addition to the Vanoc money. Can anyone spell Montreal's big oval fiasco and the years they spent paying it off.

Surely the voters of Burnaby know that DC did the right thing in letting it go. It would have been great to have it, but not if it was going to take dollops of civic money.

7/09/2007 1:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So let's hear one more time how Richmond bought the Olympic Speed Skating.

Last I heard Richmond is spending 60-80 Million of civic money on it in addition to the Vanoc money. Can anyone spell Montreal's big oval fiasco and the years they spent paying it off. "

Exactly.

"Surely the voters of Burnaby know that DC did the right thing in letting it go. It would have been great to have it, but not if it was going to take dollops of civic money. "

Would have had to spend slightly less, but the facility would not
be a payback after 2010 since Burnaby already has many ice surfaces, and from a logistical
point, it's better suited to being
close to the airport since it can be used internationally (as opposed to being in Burnaby which adds to accomodation costs), as it
is across the river from the airport and very close to nearby hotels.

It wasn't a major election issue with the voters in 2005 (certainly was not mentioned in a big way by Team Bloy back then), and would end up being "sour grapes" if it was mentioned in the fall of 2008, as it's also the time it is finished.

Richmond simply out did Burnaby on that one. But Burnaby comes out ahead not having to dunk in $62 million for it.

If it becomes successful for Richmond after the games, great. Richmond needs more than just casinos and East Asian shopping malls.

7/09/2007 3:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"On the issue of Patty Sahota running for mayor, for those who still cant see it coming, BCL MLA's are starting to come together and may soon decide also participate in the municipal elections as the NDP MLA's and MP's did. "

At the insistance of Harry Bloy.

"For the first time in many years, BCL MLA's are actually going to stand up for themselves and take the NDP's head on."

If they are in Session in the Legislature, they simply won't have time for it.

The BCL MLA's should work their own ridings and not worry about what Harry Bloy says.

"And if they decide to support an under-40 female mayor from South Asian community which is representative of Burnaby population at large against an ailing incumbent, that is certainly a great thing to see. "

What if there are other choices for Mayor?

Anyone who insists that ethnicity is a dominant factor in choosing who ends up being elected as Mayor in Burnaby needs to reduce their sugar level intake.

Why not play another hypothesis?

Someone else is better suited for
running for Mayor against Corrigan or his successor than Harry Bloy chosen Patty Sahota.

The BCA will see right through Patty Sahota and will tell the voters that she is "The Chosen One", and it would not bode well for Patty.

7/09/2007 3:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When will this selling of Patty Sahota by Harry Bloy's people end?

It's getting a bit over the top.

Especially the predictions about Kathy and Derek Corrigan.

What happened to Harry's original idea of having Lee Rankin run for Mayor?

7/09/2007 4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If it becomes successful for Richmond after the games, great. Richmond needs more than just casinos and East Asian shopping malls."

If it becomes successful, guess what sort light will shine on the face of each of the BCA city councilor that sat through the entire process. Once the Olympics spirit starts kicking in a yr before the event, guess which people will feel most left out of the legacies. Just by wiping out BCA nay-sayer from the council who claims the whole thing is a waste of money cannot even begin to remedy the damage that has been done to Burnaby's reputation.

"Anyone who insists that ethnicity is a dominant factor in choosing who ends up being elected as Mayor in Burnaby needs to reduce their sugar level intake."

The tireless exhibitions of NDP double standards are certainly more tiring to observe than the dissatisfactions with an energetic/pro-business/ex-cabinet minister PJ as a mayoral candidate whose connections in South Asian community will certainly be a bonus to her qualification. Please review the memo put out by BCNDP as Carole James starts her quest in searching for a more "diverse" range of candidates. Will the minority card ever end?

7/09/2007 5:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The BCA will see right through Patty Sahota and will tell the voters that she is "The Chosen One", and it would not bode well for Patty."

Yes, not to mention how democratic NDP and BCA really are as they claim they have "democratically" appointed a candidate in place of Mr. Democracy in the nomination race.
Given that Mr. Democracy is a BCNDP member, does he qualify for BCA membership now? Is he eligible to challenge DC for the mayoral nomination? Will BCA councillors/BCNDP/CNDP stay neutral if such a challenge does come up? If DC would happily accept challenges from outsiders, then a discussion about if PJ is the "chosen one" will become more meaningful, otherwise, there are still few from both sides of the council that still think LR is the anointed one by HB.

"What happened to Harry's original idea of having Lee Rankin run for Mayor?" It depends on many factors. For someone who has been on the opposition side for most of his career as a federal liberal, how much of a uniter is he really? Can he pull in as much money as PJ can? How many friends did he make after three years of being an independent or years of irrelevancy on the council comparing to an ex-cabinet minister who is in her prime? How likely is he going to gain endorsement from BCL or tories despite belonging to the same federal party as PJ? One does wonder if he really has what it takes to unseat DC.

But I would say that unless he goes out on a limb and decides to take on Raj C in an MLA race in the federal riding that he ran in 2000, forgoing the council incumbency is too risky a bet for him to take. If he loses the mayoral race against DC or any other BCA candidate, it may make him an even more irrelevant figure on the council as he really never held much power over the council or the party anyway. True, he served longer than everyone else on the council, but HB can just as easily drop him shall he see someone more suitable to beat DC, and no matter if he gets nominated or decides to run as an independent, like Corrigan, his lack of accomplishment in his long political career may be something that wont bode well with the voters.

7/09/2007 6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the issue of LR not fit to be a mayor but a legislator, after years of serving on the council in minority, the voters may be willing to let him be their spokeperson, but being their mayor may not seem likely, that is not to say that his qualification wont be appreciated in BCL where many of the members still respect him for his experiences.

Certainly though, LR is not going to run against BCA and T/B, because not only does he know he will perform poorly, that'll also effectively end his political career. Expect to see him backing PJ shall PJ win the nomination or get acclaimed as the mayoral candidate.

7/09/2007 6:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who the hell is PJ?

gawd is Harry wanting to plant another one into Burnaby?

7/09/2007 6:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Correction: PJ -> PS.

7/09/2007 7:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In other words:

PJ-> PS, a Harry Bloy prime choice
candidate.

Would rather vote for someone else.

7/09/2007 7:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"On the issue of LR not fit to be a mayor but a legislator, after years of serving on the council in minority, the voters may be willing to let him be their spokeperson, but being their mayor may not seem likely, that is not to say that his qualification wont be appreciated in BCL where many of the members still respect him for his experiences. "

Talk about arrogance!

Who cares if his qualification is 'appericated' in BCL. The BCL
doesn't matter much.

What if Lee decided to go it as an independent?

Lee (and a few others) have far more experience and would be better suited than let's say Patty Sahota who seems to be the benificiary of a tailor made
easy nomination.

If this is what Team Burnaby is going to end up being, T/B is headed for serious political trouble.

Who would want to be around that kind of arrogance?

7/09/2007 9:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"On the issue of LR not fit to be a mayor but a legislator, after years of serving on the council in minority, the voters may be willing to let him be their spokeperson"

Actually Lee receives quite a few
instances of voters letting him speak on their behalf. That's what a council person does.

There's far less partisanship or voting based on political leanings at the civic level than there is at the provincial or federal level.

Lee can vote against or for something on council. The "caucus vote" doesn't exist much at the civic level.

Given a choice, I'd choose Lee over Patty Sahota any day.

7/09/2007 10:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Arrogance? How so? More than half to put it mildly in BCL has a better resume than LR. In terms of political influence, LR has close to none until he decides to join HB to bring down BCA, but much of the efforts have been spent by HB & Co. Why do people just automatically assume that when someone has served on a council long enough, they should automatically become the mayor of the city. If that's so, then is Jenny Kwan going to become the next Premier of BC once NDP comes back to power after Olympics?

As LR tries to find a home after he has left BCA, how much success has he had? Much of the impact he had when he ran for mayor and MP last century had been dissipated over the years. Patty has become not only more prominent in the community, but also in the inner circles of federal libs/BCL while tories are less likely going to back LR and would rather see someone new challenging the NDP establishment. Certainly, I am sure LR has a lot to offer in his years on the council, but unfortunately much of the time has been spent on opposition or in darkness, that is certainly unfortunate. But a farewell bid for the mayor maybe just be enough push him over the edge like Chuck Cadman did as an independent, unfortunately, neither the establishment nor the chief opposition (BCL/HB & Co) will likely back him. LR is not getting younger though, if he decides to throw his hat into the ring and help BCL defeat Raj, I am sure the entire BBY BCL clan will be more willing to help. But a mayoral material is not something people associate with LR, unfortunately.

7/09/2007 10:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patty Sahota would be a breath of fresh air. She should have run for TB last time. I am not sure why the brain surgeons behind TB didn’t figure that out last time around.

7/09/2007 11:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Patty Sahota would be a breath of fresh air. She should have run for TB last time. I am not sure why the brain surgeons behind TB didn’t figure that out last time around. "

Not a bad point. If she had run for
council in 2005 (there was still time for her to do that), did a term, worked the civic council, got to know it, and got her profile up, then perhaps there could have been something for the voters in a Mayor's candidate for 2008.

So now they figure that Sahota needs a comfy home (and an 'easy' link to Victoria for the BC Liberals and Harry Bloy gets his political goodie credits - one wonder if he's doing all this to finally get recognised for a possible cabinet post - and the two other BCL MLA's are on side too)

But the brain surgeons behind T/B obvously had as we saw political mental dysfunctions and didn't see
that opportunity.

As per usual for T/B.

It's all preset political opportunity in the works now.

Who wants to be a part of that?

Would rather vote for someone who actually does things for Burnaby.

7/10/2007 7:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Arrogance? How so? More than half to put it mildly in BCL has a better resume than LR. In terms of political influence, LR has close to none until he decides to join HB to bring down BCA,"

He doesn't have to do that. Jsut convince many members that he's a good choice, and you're done.

HB doesn't have the monopoloy on defeating the BCA. Not by a long shot. Why would anyone in Burnaby's political community do what HB wants?

"but much of the efforts have been spent by HB & Co. Why do people just automatically assume that when someone has served on a council long enough, they should automatically become the mayor of the city."

Why do people autoamtically assume that Patty Sahota is the best one?

LR has lengthy civic experience, PS does not.

"If that's so, then is Jenny Kwan going to become the next Premier of BC once NDP comes back to power after Olympics? "

She wouldn't do it.

"As LR tries to find a home after he has left BCA, how much success has he had? Much of the impact he had when he ran for mayor and MP last century had been dissipated over the years. "

It was HB that brought LR into Team Burnaby in the first place.


"Patty has become not only more prominent in the community,"

How so?

"but also in the inner circles of federal libs/BCL while tories are less likely going to back LR and would rather see someone new challenging the NDP establishment."

Quite a few Tories in Burnaby did vote for LR, his vote results reflect that.


"Certainly, I am sure LR has a lot to offer in his years on the council, but unfortunately much of the time has been spent on opposition or in darkness, that is certainly unfortunate."

"opposition" isn't as clear cut in the civic level as it is at provincial and federal. The councillors end up being routes of advocacy for the citizens, and Lee has done a pretty good job of that over his years.


"But a farewell bid for the mayor maybe just be enough push him over the edge like Chuck Cadman did as an independent, unfortunately, neither the establishment nor the chief opposition (BCL/HB & Co) will likely back him."

Who cares? It's up to the membership (Team Burnaby) and voters (election) if Lee goes back to council or not. It's not up to HB and his minions to decide that.

"LR is not getting younger though, if he decides to throw his hat into the ring and help BCL defeat Raj, I am sure the entire BBY BCL clan will be more willing to help."

The entire BBY BCL will have their hands full keeping Richard's and John's ridings. The BCL in Burnaby is not as strong as it should be.

"But a mayoral material is not something people associate with LR, unfortunately."

Doubt the voters would see Mayor in Patty Sahota, either since she hasn't done anything of prominence, and doesn't have any council experience.

The only government experience she has is that given on a plate to her Ministry, which didn't really amount to much of anything that couldn't have been covered by Tourism or Small Business Development.

7/10/2007 7:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Instead trying to downgrade Patty Sahota, let us look at the facts.

1. Patty was a cabinet minister and Lee has been a councilor, on the opposition side. And that is a fact.

2. Who fits the image of a reformer better? A councilor who has served with DC for all his life, or a young and hip female candidate who has represented the riding before where there is a strong NDP presence. The fact is that choosing between LR and DC is like choosing between apples imported from California vs Florida.

3. HB & Co are more likely going to back Patty than LR for obvious reasons. Was LR pro-BCL in 2005 and was he a silent figure? Was LR really a "prominent" member of TB or is LR just trying to piggy back on the party while HB just sees his council incumbency as another move to unite the right and take on the NDP establishment. The fact is BBY BCL clan are more likely going to back PS who, shall she win the mayoral race, will be an excellent asset for the anti-NDP faction to have in the future as opposed to the fading councilor.

Given LR's lack of prominence both at the civic level and at the community, the only people who would vote for him would be those who are comfortable with electing familiar incumbents, but are Burnaby voters really any less familiar with Patty? Of course, that is up to the TB people to decide, it really depends on how many people LR can sign up against the BCL establishment's favorite daughter, certainly though, he must know that the nomination for the mayor and council candidate happens at the same date, unless accommodation is required. Shall he lose, he will have to run as an independent candidate and I certainly do not hope to see that happening.

7/10/2007 10:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must have missed a few things over the last thirty years in bby.

Just what are Patty's credentials for anything other than being an attractive and demur member of the Sikh community? Just what community service has she being engaged in over the past three years?- or at any time for that matter? Is she on any charitable Boards? Is she involved in a reading program for children like Gary Begin? I have never seen her anywhere other than as a side-kick for her current boyfriend. Does she even live in Burnaby? A previous post mentions her ability as a great fundraiser. Is there any record of this?

By the way, politics at any level does not exactly count as charitable work. Hobby maybe, employment perhaps, but not charity.

She was a one-term MLA who got swept in on a Liberal landslide. The BCL did everything it could to give her some prominence (like a junior Cab post). It even paid for most of her campaign, but even this didn't work.

If PS is Team Burnaby's best choice for mayor, then it shows just how bankrupt they really are.

7/10/2007 11:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Instead trying to downgrade Patty Sahota, let us look at the facts.

1. Patty was a cabinet minister and Lee has been a councilor, on the opposition side. And that is a fact.

Patty was a last minute appointment to cabinet which didn't really amount to much.

Patty was appointed in February 2005, with the election called for in April. The Ministry was an analagram of Tourism and Small Business, and was a needless expense since Tourism and/or Small Business could have done the same thing.

Lee has been a councillor since the early 1980's.


2. Who fits the image of a reformer better? A councilor who has served with DC for all his life, or a young and hip female candidate who has represented the riding before where there is a strong NDP presence. The fact is that choosing between LR and DC is like choosing between apples imported from California vs Florida."

Florida has a minimal apple crop compared to California.

The voters are not wanting anyone who is 'hip'. Sahota won on a Liberal landslide. It isn't the first time that riding was taken away from the NDP. It's actually the third.


"3. HB & Co are more likely going to back Patty than LR for obvious reasons. Was LR pro-BCL in 2005 and was he a silent figure?"

Lee focused on civic matters in 2005 as he should have. whether he supported the BCL is irrevalent.


"Was LR really a "prominent" member of TB or is LR just trying to piggy back on the party while HB just sees his council incumbency as another move to unite the right and take on the NDP establishment."

Was prominent in T/B as he was one of the reasons why T/B was put together in the first place. He is still a large part of T/B as he should be.


"The fact is BBY BCL clan are more likely going to back PS who, shall she win the mayoral race, will be an excellent asset for the anti-NDP faction to have in the future as opposed to the fading councilor."

Conjecture. If someone better than PS comes along, the membership of T/B may well choose that one.

The fact that the BCL is part of T/B is irrevalent.

"Given LR's lack of prominence both at the civic level and at the community, the only people who would vote for him would be those who are comfortable with electing familiar incumbents, but are Burnaby voters really any less familiar with Patty? Of course, that is up to the TB people to decide, it really depends on how many people LR can sign up against the BCL establishment's favorite daughter,"

So there's the centre point folks.

Somehow a few have decided that a rather obscure ex-MLA is somehow a "favorite daughter".

More of a product of political manipulation, to ensure she gets a politial soft landing.


"certainly though, he must know that the nomination for the mayor and council candidate happens at the same date, unless accommodation is required."

Wouldn't happen since all positions are nominated at the same nomination meeting, Mayor then council, then school.

"Shall he lose, he will have to run as an independent candidate and I certainly do not hope to see that happening. "

That's exactly what could happen with Lee and a few others if people originating from Harry Bloy stop thinking dumb, get smart, and lose this favoritism towards Patty Sahota and just let the membership decide for themselves.

Ultimately, it is the voters who will decide.

7/10/2007 3:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If PS is Team Burnaby's best choice for mayor, then it shows just how bankrupt they really are. "

Team Burnaby is ending up as a dump.

Political manipulation by Harry Bloy, a obvious attempt to plant
a favoured nominee well ahead of
any nomination meeting, and 'creative engineering' of the civic party, not to mention the entire debt from last time still has yet to be retired, and they have lost quite a few directors on their board.

Team Bloy is falling apart.

Burnaby is better off choosing between good BCA candidates and a few forward thinking independents who aren't tied to Harry Bloy or any other federal or provincial politician.

7/10/2007 3:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Patty Sahota - the BCL establishment's favourite daughter"

Ugh. Who comes up with these sickening things?

and just who makes up this so-called pack of jokers called the
BCL establishment?

7/10/2007 6:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Probably the same jokers who figure they and Harry Bloy "own" the BC Liberals in Burnaby.

We in the BCL Burnaby North riding
are laughing out loud.

7/10/2007 10:09 PM  

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