Saturday, April 11, 2009

Retreads with a shade of green

The Greens have recycled one more candidate in Burnaby. Helen Chang will be running in Burnaby-Lougheed.

Chang was elected as a TEAM Burnaby school trustee in 2005. She lost her school board seat last fall.

Carrie McLaren ran for MP in Burnaby-New Westminster and Doug Perry ran in Burnaby-Douglas last fall. Civic political activist and frequent letter to the editor scribe G. Bruce Friesen has not run for office previously but has long been involved politically in the city.

20 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Friesen has honked one too many times. He should be out at Estavan Point being a loud foghorn.

ALso forgotten is another well worn down retread is Lee Rankin.

He has alot of milage.

Kind of odd that Chang is running against Harry since they are both commonly tied to Team Burnaby.

4/11/2009 10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Kind of odd that Chang is running against Harry since they are both commonly tied to Team Burnaby."

odd?....how so?

Garth Evans chairs Richard Lee's riding association and backs Harry Bloy and other BCLIB MLA's so faithfully that it is actually a surprise he was NOT the candidate in Burnaby-Edmonds (given both Gary and Garth both live away from the riding). If anything, Garth Evans wanted to see TB to fail badly, and he is not the only one.

This is purely a dagger going all the way back and that is the perfect example that it is time for BCLIB to put TB out of its misery.

My advice remains, since it is almost certain Richard Lee will lose his re-election, the mayoral campaign for Burnaby to elect its first ever "minority" leader Richard Lee and launch a new civic party and run himself to the next mayoral race, likely an open race. (maybe recruit first the Chinese councilors that are sitting at the very bottom of the socialist party's ladder.)

This is what BCLIB gets from TB, a political junk that will never win and now a dagger in the back. One would in fact hope Harry Bloy does lose (thank to Helen Chang no less, the only Korean candidate in a race with a large Korean speaking community), likely along Richard Lee. Only then can they take over TB and finally disband/force merge it with the other anti-NDP civic party /(ies).

4/12/2009 11:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chang is a joke; no-one takes her seriously. However, if she can attract enough interest in the Korean media, and enough Korean votes, she could hurt Bloy. For some unfathomable reason Bloy has a lot of support among Burnaby's Korean community, which he wouldn't want to split. Who knows; Helen Chang's candidacy may help the NDP.

4/12/2009 12:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kind of odd that Chang is running against Harry since they are both commonly tied to Team Burnaby."

odd?....how so?

Harry was one of the principals in formulating Team Burnaby and was a big player in it until he and Rankin parted ways.

Garth Evans chairs Richard Lee's riding association and backs Harry Bloy and other BCLIB MLA's so faithfully that it is actually a surprise he was NOT the candidate in Burnaby-Edmonds (given both Gary and Garth both live away from the riding). If anything, Garth Evans wanted to see TB to fail badly, and he is not the only one.

Correct there. There were many that wanted TB to fail.


This is purely a dagger going all the way back and that is the perfect example that it is time for BCLIB to put TB out of its misery.

Don't need the BC Liberals to do that, the voters in 2008 did that for them.


My advice remains, since it is almost certain Richard Lee will lose his re-election, the mayoral campaign for Burnaby to elect its first ever "minority" leader Richard Lee and launch a new civic party and run himself to the next mayoral race, likely an open race.

Don't need a "minority" leader Need some one who can cater to all people.


(maybe recruit first the Chinese councilors that are sitting at the very bottom of the socialist party's ladder.)

Why bother?


This is what BCLIB gets from TB, a political junk that will never win and now a dagger in the back. One would in fact hope Harry Bloy does lose (thank to Helen Chang no less, the only Korean candidate in a race with a large Korean speaking community), likely along Richard Lee. Only then can they take over TB and finally disband/force merge it with the other anti-NDP civic party /(ies).

There aren't any other anti-NDP civic party / ies.

4/12/2009 4:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Helen will no doubt drag a few Korea votes away from Harry. Don't know why she is doing this.

Harry may be able to keep his seat anyway. However the other two Lib incumbents are toast. I am hearing of former Liberal voters in North and Willingdon who are voting NDP.

The prison issue will take them down. Very sad and not good for BC, but neither has done enough over the past eight years to pull out a win in a difficult election like this one.

4/12/2009 9:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harry doesn't have a seat to keep, as he has never represented the southern half of that new riding.

He doesn't even live in the riding itself.

If there's votes to be taken away from Harry, that is good.

4/12/2009 10:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Helen will take more votes away from the NDP than the Libs.

Most Asians are free enterprisers and don't want to see the NDP train wreck ruin their businesses.

4/12/2009 10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's with Bruce Friesen running for the Greens? Wasn't he tied up with the reform party?

4/13/2009 7:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it true that Helen Chang is a Rankin supporter and that's why she's running against Harry?

4/13/2009 10:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Is it true that Helen Chang is a Rankin supporter and that's why she's running against Harry?"

Technically, whoever ran with TB supposedly endorsed Lee Rankin (one can certainly understand why he decided to stay with BCLIB because switching twice would simply make him look bad, if not already).

As for running against Harry, one poster had it right, Koreans have high regard for business, especially in the retail areas, not to mention that she ran against NDP in the civic election, she would have had no chance being backed by NDP. However, the Korean Senator that Harry Bloy endorsed has far more influences that Helen can only dream of, I say Harry should be safe. But it simply shows how much hate TB remains with BCLIB figures such as Garth Evans. It may very well be that the Corrigans hate Harry Bloy so much they had decided to recruit a Korea candidate to run against him with a seat on the school board. (if Helen Chang does get more than 10% of the votes and knock out Harry Bloy, she would become instant star in the NDP community.) It is certainly unfortunate, had BCLIB decided to take over TB and kicked out the leadership/Rankin then, they could have united the anti-NDP faction. While unlikely, it is certainly possible that the NDP's will sweep the provincial elections across the city again.

4/13/2009 3:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's with Bruce Friesen running for the Greens? Wasn't he tied up with the reform party?

He's actually a former federal Liberal.

4/13/2009 7:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Technically, whoever ran with TB supposedly endorsed Lee Rankin (one can certainly understand why he decided to stay with BCLIB because switching twice would simply make him look bad, if not already).

Technically wrong since who ever ran with TB endorsed all candidates on that "team" not specifically Lee Rankin.

Rankin already looks bad for running once again so soon after a failed attempt in the civic election.



As for running against Harry, one poster had it right, Koreans have high regard for business, especially in the retail areas, not to mention that she ran against NDP in the civic election, she would have had no chance being backed by NDP. However, the Korean Senator that Harry Bloy endorsed has far more influences that Helen can only dream of.

Not exactly true. But the wider scope does not include Korean-Cdns exclusively.


I say Harry should be safe.

No riding is safe. Harry will need to work the riding, and how the public sees the Liberal Campaign will affect his outcome.


But it simply shows how much hate TB remains with BCLIB figures such as Garth Evans.

The hate is not with Evans, but with rather those who tried to manipulate TB to exclude Evans.


It may very well be that the Corrigans hate Harry Bloy so much they had decided to recruit a Korea candidate to run against him with a seat on the school board.

Wrong.


(if Helen Chang does get more than 10% of the votes and knock out Harry Bloy, she would become instant star in the NDP community.)

What's wrong with that?


It is certainly unfortunate, had BCLIB decided to take over TB and kicked out the leadership/Rankin then, they could have united the anti-NDP faction.

Possible, so why didn't you help on that before?


While unlikely, it is certainly possible that the NDP's will sweep the provincial elections across the city again.

Be there when it happens.

4/13/2009 8:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>>Helen will take more votes away from the NDP than the Libs.

Most Asians are free enterprisers and don't want to see the NDP train wreck ruin their businesses.<<<

While Asians are very "business oriented" they also vote for other Asians. The fact her name is Chang will get both Chinese and Koreans voting for her. It will hurt Harry Bloy - maybe not enough to put him in retirement, but Helen running is not good news for him.

4/14/2009 12:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Richard Lee is a goner, as a previous entry mentioned, why would he be a good candidate for Mayor next time? It will take a lot more than being from a minority to beat Mayor Corrigan.

4/14/2009 12:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While Asians are very "business oriented" they also vote for other Asians. The fact her name is Chang will get both Chinese and Koreans voting for her. It will hurt Harry Bloy - maybe not enough to put him in retirement, but Helen running is not good news for him.

A bit odd, but true. Can't say the same for English Cdns who don't vote their own kind, no matter what party they represent.

Hopefully Helen will put Harry into retirement.

Anyone who advocates a gondola for Burnaby Mountain instead of additional badly needed improvements to health care needs to be replaced.

4/14/2009 5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If Richard Lee is a goner, as a previous entry mentioned, why would he be a good candidate for Mayor next time?"

He isn't.It's just someone's sick joke to have Richard as Mayor in order to 'represent' the Asian community.

Forgetting everyone else that isn't as "important as the Asian Community" of course.

Voting on the basis of one's ethnic background only has to be the stupidest reason for voting for someone and for hoping someone wins.

4/14/2009 8:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Voting on the basis of one's ethnic background only has to be the stupidest reason for voting for someone and for hoping someone wins.'

Cannot be more wrong.

Barack Obama became the President of America BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. I certainly feel sad for you if you still cannot accept ethnic voting as a fact, which Mayor Corrigan certainly thought of when he appointed two Chinese to his council line-up. Obama certainly does not look like a joke to me.

If it is time for America to elect its first ever African American President, it should also be time for Burnaby to elect its first ever Asian Canadian Mayor.

Richard Lee is easily a goner for obvious reasons given his riding profile. However, city-wide, the anti-NDP vs NDP ration remains 50-50 with some independents sometimes deciding to back the incumbent mayor and his team. However, Obama led the Democrats to achieve a super-majority in the Congress taking over from Republicans, Richard Lee has the same capacity to do so with another anti-NDP civic team.

4/14/2009 10:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding Helen Chang, at a larger scale, it appears that BCGRN is certainly gaining its momentum as it attracts "talents" from BCLIB deserters/rebels from TB.

One questions what is BCGRN to gain under the current election system anyways, it is more than likely they will be wiped out again and Helen as we all know has less than zero percent of getting elected. Does it not make more sense to simply back the Big Labour candidates and get it over with?

If STV had passed, Carole James would have been forced to work with the greens against BCLIB and they could have formed a coalition government with possibly a first ever female majority cabinet in BC. Which leads me to the next question, as much as people dont like Gordon Campbell, they continue to vote for BCLIB. It is sad because I think people truly want to give Carole James a chance, it is unfortunate the NDP's failed experiment is simply too close for comfort.

4/14/2009 10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cannot be more wrong.

Barack Obama became the President of America BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.

Wrong. He became president because he connected with many people who are not black and in fact, he connected with alot of Republicans who are also not black.

In short, he because President because he was very popular with the people in the United States.

His being black resonated with quite a few people, but many saw beyond the colour and saw a person with vision and the right formula
for change.

People were also ready to toss out the Republicans as well.




I certainly feel sad for you if you still cannot accept ethnic voting as a fact, which Mayor Corrigan certainly thought of when he appointed two Chinese to his council line-up.

Ethnic voting is in my mind a bit silly because it is self-discriminatory, and people should vote on what the person offers, not who they are.


Obama certainly does not look like a joke to me.

Never said he was, sunshine.


If it is time for America to elect its first ever African American President, it should also be time for Burnaby to elect its first ever Asian Canadian Mayor.

Huh? The two are not the same. Why specifically an Asian Canadian? Why not German-Canadian or Spanish?


Richard Lee is easily a goner for obvious reasons given his riding profile. However, city-wide, the anti-NDP vs NDP ration remains 50-50 with some independents sometimes deciding to back the incumbent mayor and his team.

None of them did.


However, Obama led the Democrats to achieve a super-majority in the Congress taking over from Republicans, Richard Lee has the same capacity to do so with another anti-NDP civic team.

Not very likely. Richard is a nice guy, but he doesn't resonate and capture people's imagination the way at Obama does.

4/14/2009 11:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One questions what is BCGRN to gain under the current election system anyways, it is more than likely they will be wiped out again and Helen as we all know has less than zero percent of getting elected.

Well, it does give a position for Bruce Friesen to do his foghorn impression with his loud critical comment.

It also brings their issues to the forefront, which can be valuable.

Does it not make more sense to simply back the Big Labour candidates and get it over with?

Depends on who Big Labour candidates are.

If STV had passed, Carole James would have been forced to work with the greens against BCLIB and they could have formed a coalition government with possibly a first ever female majority cabinet in BC.

If STV had passed, we would have ended up with something equal to a pizza parliament. As for first ever female majority cabinet, that doesn't mean much except for the feminist movement.


Which leads me to the next question, as much as people dont like Gordon Campbell, they continue to vote for BCLIB.

Many people don't like Jimmmy Pattison, but go to Save on Foods anyway.

Many people didn't like George Bush, but visited his country more than once or twice during his terms in office.


It is sad because I think people truly want to give Carole James a chance, it is unfortunate the NDP's failed experiment is simply too close for comfort.

That's for sure. It wasn't the smartest move to make.

Now the next thing is make this equatable next time.

There should be ridings for boys and others for girls to even things out.

Then there are "boy ministries" such as Finance and Transportation, and "girl ministries" such as Children and Families, Education.

4/14/2009 11:14 PM  

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