Monday, March 17, 2008

Let it Begin...

TEAM Burnaby no longer has Gary Begin among its ranks. The longtime civic pol of various non-BCA stripes left the party over a dispute about supporting the slate's policy positions, which have yet to be laid out in full prior to November's civic vote.

A constant theme throughout the current term has been Begin vs. TEAM, an angle played up by the wise BCA majority and the local press. In earlier months Begin and former TEAMmates Garth Evans and Lee Rankin played down the divide when Begin voted with the BCA. Last week's development has led to things boiling over on the TEAM side with mayoral hopeful Rankin letting it fly with comments about Begin's softspot for the civic NDP.

This could get uglier. The best solution for both sides is keeping their opinions out of the public spotlight. If it gets uglier, voters may choose to add to the ranks of the BCA, which is bad for TEAM, Begin, and the civic democratic process. Keep it quiet, boys.

72 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Riddance Gary!
Maybe the TEAM members knew what they were doing when they didn't nominate Begin as a council candidate 3 years ago.

3/18/2008 12:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is always interesting to see how each councilor is ranked in the party heirachy. Even though he now chairs committees next to BCA councilors, joining BCA will put him very far down on the ladder. Like all councilors, Gary Begin too will have to contest in the nomination shall he decide to join other parties.

However, I dont see anything "ugly" about this. Anyone can quit his or her party, Ujjal Dosanj and David Emerson did and scored themselves cabinet posts. It is much more surprising that he had stayed with TB with his long and consistent pattern of voting with the mayor's party.

Now that Gary Begin is running an independent, I really do not see the possibility of him getting re-elected and his decade long career as a councilor may very well end, not on a high note either. BCA has not been known to yield seats and will probably nominate a full slate of councilors and any sort of party revival which will obviously help BCA will likely Gary at forever odd with TB even if elected, unless Gary Begin wants to go green which will be a sure way to lose the election.

But I see this as an opportunity for TB to nominate new candidates which is what the party needs and I certainly hope Raymond Leung already has some people in mind before he notified Gary Begin of the party's "ultimatum".

3/18/2008 6:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gary has done a few interesting things. However things are changing in Burnaby and he does not want to be part of the change.

If he thinks he can win as an independent then he should try. But wouldn't it just be better to retire and call it a day?

It really is time for some new blood - Mayor and Council - to take Burnaby in a new direction.

3/18/2008 1:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Good Riddance Gary!
Maybe the TEAM members knew what they were doing when they didn't nominate Begin as a council candidate 3 years ago."

Someone didn't get their Count Chocula this morning.

3/18/2008 5:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Things are not as they seem.
Is anybody covering the the Team Burnaby executive meetings? Why not? That's where the real story is.

And don't forget to keep track of what Harry Bloy has to say about all this, eh?

3/18/2008 9:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Previous blogger needs to elaborate on his inside story about Team Burnaby - unless of course he knows nothing and is making it up as he writes.

3/19/2008 12:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's all this Harry Bloy talk which makes him out like some sort of strategic political genius boy.
Some people who comment on this site are dreamers.

3/19/2008 1:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, what is going on at the TB executive meetings?
Please share.

3/19/2008 8:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real story is the corruption of the NDP Mayor and councillors who appointed NDP/BCA member Pritam Saggu to the board of variance (as reported in the Burnaby Now) and who is apparently using this appointment to peddle influence with his NDP colleagues. Too bad the bloggers like to drink each other's bathwater rather than focusing their interest and efforts in getting rid of this corrupt NDP government.

3/19/2008 2:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree. There really is a big story developing around the Variance Committee appointments of the BCA Mayor and Council. What could bigger than corruption at city hall?

Gary Begin leaving Team is stricly small potatoes as far as stories go.

3/19/2008 5:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean the BCA patronage government consists of many of Mayor Corrigan's NDP colleagues? I do not think that comes as a surprise to most of the people in Burnaby that are living under the BCA government. But it is up to themselves to decide if they would like to see a change or be satisfied with the status quo. While charging the current government as corrupted may be a bit strong, but this style of politics has been observed too frequently for bloggers to bother themselves with.

And to come back to the topic of Gary Begin. How is it possible for someone that has practically endorsed Corrigan administration to help overthrow a government that he has consistently voted with. Even if he did stick with TB (as he had so rightly promised not long ago), I dont see how much better positioned he can be comparing to now. Not to mention that he has not ruled out running with BCA, which Gary Begin probably had in mind for some time. So just maybe this whole thing is not so ugly after all.

3/19/2008 5:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have no idea what the previous blog is trying to say.The whole last paragraph is far too clever for me. Could someone simplify for us plebs?

Thx

3/19/2008 9:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What bunch of loony tunes. You idiots have it all wrong when it comes to Begin.

But keep on spectulating.

Its comical entertaining reading.

Jsut as comical as the resident speculator on this blog who keeps coming up with ideas about Corrigan's next move and gets it wrong every time.

3/19/2008 10:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is not the first time Gary Begin proves people wrong, especially those tens of thousands of people that elected him. But I certainly hope this is the last blog entry on Gary Begin who has now become a non-factor in TB's campaign to become government.

He should soon enough reach a decision to either endorse Mayor Corrigan's re-election or otherwise . But that will be redundant had he immediately taken up BCA membership on the council long before the nomination race.

"...as comical as the resident speculator on this blog who keeps coming up with ideas about Corrigan's next move and gets it wrong every time."

I applaud the resident speculator for his/her courage to stake such a claim. I would say most Burnaby resident would like to see our mayor forming a government in Victoria, while not feasible, the ambition that Corrigan has is already visible. I say we let resident blogger keep echoing the general public's opinion.

3/20/2008 8:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's time Begin came out of the closet and joined the NDP. I am sure he will have no trouble endorsing Corrigan, even though Corrigan is responsible for the Saggu influence-peddling scandal, the biggest scandal to hit Burnaby council in history. Burnaby Now readers will remember that Begin endorsed federal Liberal Mary Pynenberg, the sleazy New Westminster planner who was accepted campaign donations from New West developers who had planning applications before her department in New West. She was fired from New West and from Kelowna and, guess what, has shown up behind NDPer Gregerson's mayoralty bid in Vancouver. For Begin, the title of councillor and the pay is everything. Why doesn't he run in Delta where he now lives?
And the corrupt Corrigan--he's fat and happy raking in the dough in Burnaby. He's not running for Victoria--he's running in Burnaby with the help of Begin, no doubt.

3/20/2008 9:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's leave Gary Begin alone. He has made his choice. It was a mistake for Team Burnaby to invite him in and an even bigger mistake to let him do so much damage over such a long period.

Gary no longer lives in Burnaby and will probably retire at the end of his present term to his Crescent Beach home. If he chooses to endorse Mayor Corrigan in the coming civic elections- so what.

3/20/2008 10:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Begin a non-factor? ha ha
Read the preceding 16 posts and try saying that again, with a straight face.

He'll be an independent and there are more surprises coming! Good ones, too, I bet!

Correction - Mary Pynenburg is on Bill Cunningham's team with Alan Degenova. This blog has placed her in the wrong camp twice. It's a conspiracy!!!

3/20/2008 3:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Begin a non-factor? ha ha
Read the preceding 16 posts and try saying that again, with a straight face.

He'll be an independent and there are more surprises coming! Good ones, too, I bet!

Correction - Mary Pynenburg is on Bill Cunningham's team with Alan Degenova. This blog has placed her in the wrong camp twice. It's a conspiracy!!!

3/20/2008 3:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger needs to do his homeowork; Vancoufver Sun showed Calamity Mary behind NDP/Vision mayoralty candidate Gregerson when he made his announcement -- I guess she was in the photo by accident; whenever the Pynenberg/Leger duo is around, the smell of sleaze is in the air. Remember Leger's link to the Kwantlen student council scandal reported in the Sun? I'm sure Mary P. thinks she can weasel something out of Vancouver city.

3/20/2008 3:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Corrigan/BCA/Saggu sleaze? Case in point.

Have a drive by 7657/7659 Elwell Street at the corner of Kaloa. There is a new duplex going up. Lot a bit on the small side but duplex even so. Application to put both garages on the very short side street. All the neighbors objected in writing. It went to appeal and guess what. Even though Burnaby Building Dept recommended against it, the variance board gave the good old green light. Look who the builder is.

Check it out. If you are a builder or a developer or just a guy who wants a special project ok'd - your dreams can come true in Burnaby if you know the right people.

3/20/2008 7:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Corrigan/BCA/Saggu sleaze? Case in point.

Have a drive by 7657/7659 Elwell Street at the corner of Kaloa. There is a new duplex going up. Lot a bit on the small side but duplex even so. Application to put both garages on the very short side street. All the neighbors objected in writing. It went to appeal and guess what. Even though Burnaby Building Dept recommended against it, the variance board gave the good old green light. Look who the builder is.

Check it out. If you are a builder or a developer or just a guy who wants a special project ok'd - your dreams can come true in Burnaby if you know the right people.

3/20/2008 7:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

your dreams can come true in Burnaby if you know the right people.

or Harry Bloy.

3/20/2008 7:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Given that endorsement Mary received, Gary Begin is by far the most prominent, and I think that says alot about her campaign against Peter Julian. And she is no Bill Cunningham who pretty much owns her on the connection to federal liberal establishment. And we can also remove the possibility that she will ever become the chief city planner of Vancouver. But whether she will end up as a council candidate and lose or otherwise, it is really not relevant to Gary Begin whose endorsement never did get her elected, not even close. Who is he going to endorse this time?

"Let's leave Gary Begin alone. He has made his choice. It was a mistake for Team Burnaby to invite him in and an even bigger mistake to let him do so much damage over such a long period.

Gary no longer lives in Burnaby and will probably retire at the end of his present term to his Crescent Beach home. If he chooses to endorse Mayor Corrigan in the coming civic elections- so what."

And we are allowing Gary to decide on the fate of the city? A by-election was triggered in Coquitlam when a councilor moved to the island, if Gary no longer wants to live in Burnaby, maybe TB should start boycotting the council whenever Gary is present, since their votes would not matter anyways, until a special election is held which under the current political climate is I predict a sure win for TB. And I certainly hope Mayor Corrigan has some good words to defend Gary who has practically endorsed his government, if not however, that should a sign that Gary needs to take a deep look at.

3/20/2008 7:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And we are allowing Gary to decide on the fate of the city?"

he's only one of many on council,
elected by the populance, not TB
members such as yourself.


"A by-election was triggered in Coquitlam when a councilor moved to the island, if Gary no longer wants to live in Burnaby, maybe TB should start boycotting the council whenever Gary is present, since their votes would not matter anyways, until a special election is held which under the current political climate is I predict a sure win for TB.

Stupid observations. Since the civic election is in November it would be a waste of taxpayer time and city resources to set a byelection for a seat that would expire on the day before the civic election anyway.

Gary does live in Burnaby, as he has a residence in that city.




And I certainly hope Mayor Corrigan has some good words to defend Gary who has practically endorsed his government, if not however, that should a sign that Gary needs to take a deep look at.

Just as some people really need to take a deep look at the problems within Team Burnaby.

3/20/2008 10:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on -- Gary lives in Delta -- like everything else about Gary, the residence in Burnaby is just for show. And he got all the TEAM vote that TEAM expended time, effort and money to get -- that is why he scurried over to TEAM after he was defeated in 2002.

3/21/2008 10:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scurried to TEAM after 2002?

Er you really need to revisit that.

TEAM by agreement and BVNPA by agreement merged after the 2002 civic election.

It's too bad it never really worked out to what it should have been.

As for his residence in Burnaby, I doubt very much it would be for show.

You really need to lighten up, bud.

As for your illustrious President, he has been all over the political map, in fact when he didn't get the federal Liberal Nomination in one year, he instantly took off to the Reform Party and lost.

He's not exactly the brightest lamp
on the chandelier.

3/21/2008 12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"TEAM by agreement and BVNPA by agreement merged after the 2002 civic election."

You are partly right. They did agree, but only TEAM passed the motions in good faith. Gary (and others) made sure BVNPA did not go out of existance. Gary still has it in his back pocket and will no doubt reflate it in the next short while. Pretty smart on his part.

It won't help though. Burnaby has had enough of him. Who would want to run beside a guy with his history. Yesterday's news. Delta can have him.

3/21/2008 4:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you had any credibility, you would know that both BVNPA and TEAM passed those motions in good faith.

Why do you figure TEAM passed the motion in good faith and not the BVNPA?

Are you suggesting that Gary will resurrect BVNPA? Kinda difficult since it run by different people.

and why would it be important for you that BNVPA go out of existence?

If Gary is 'yesterday's news' why all the fuss and hatred of him?

You're getting all worked up there bud to the point where this hatred of him is becoming an obession with you.

Pathetic.

Gary's left TEAM. Time to move on.

3/21/2008 5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look who's worked up.

3/21/2008 10:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Gary have the finances to go it alone?

3/22/2008 12:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Does Gary have the finances to go it alone?"

Depends on what he wants to achieve. If all he wantis to give it a shot at winning as an independent so he can sit on council, then the answer is yes he does. It would only cost him $8-10 thousand to do a reasonable campaign. This would give him a chance to attack whatever opponents he wants, to endorse Mayor Corrigan or whoever, to talk about his 30 years of public life etc. However his chances of winning would be quite slim - even with his name recognition.

It is very difficult to win against hard nosed, organized, well funded and polarized civic slates.

3/22/2008 11:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It is very difficult to win against hard nosed, organized, well funded and polarized civic slates."

Including one which simply won't let this idotic issue go.

He's left Team Burnaby. Time to move on.

If he wants to run as an Independent, it's his decision and his political risk.

Team Burnaby has much more important things to worry about than Gary's departure.

There's alot to be fixed in Team Burnaby before they end up being close to being a viable option.

3/22/2008 4:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There's alot to be fixed in Team Burnaby before they end up being close to being a viable option."

Hmmmm.... Team Burnaby is a giant step closer to fixing whatever is wrong with Gary Begone.

3/22/2008 5:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gary's finances? I'm sure he'll bum some dough. Didn't he bum money from everyone in town when Mr. Gary's Ladies Fashions went down the toilet? No wonder he was chosen for the NDP council's finance committee. He's perfect for them.

3/22/2008 6:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's a stupid statement, but from team Burnaby what else is new?

Team Burnaby was complaining no one except NDPers were on those city committes yet one person (a councillor) who is not a member of the NDP becomes a member and he's trashed. Says alot of the quality of Team Burnaby and how it handles
civic issues.

And if you're going to trash Gary's business life, why not examine that of one of your Campaign Chairs, BB?? He has fried
more businesses than $8.00 an hour help at McDonald's fries a McChicken Burger.

SOme of the talent in Team Burnaby judging from the contributions in this blog couldn't run a business.

In fact who would want such people who have idiotic views?

Well except for parking the cars maybe.

3/22/2008 6:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In fact who would want such people who have idiotic views?

Well except for parking the cars maybe."

Hey. I'm on your side buddy! I'll go with the Mayor Corrigan and his "personal gain" choices for Variance Committee anytime.

3/22/2008 7:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As opposed to whom?

Harry Bloy and his giving out jobs to friends and later looking at his "accounts receivable"??

Works on both side of the road, bud. It's well known that Harry had been handing out goodies covertly..

3/22/2008 8:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It's well known that Harry had been handing out goodies covertly.."

I hadn't heard that. I haven't seen any petition with 26 names on it suggesting anything illegal or even questionable. Maybe you could enlighten us all about just what terrible things he has done - covertly as you call it.

3/22/2008 9:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It always astounds me how everything has to do with Harry Bloy. I wonder if Harry Bloy has a hand in global warming too.

From the very beginning when Gary Begin was first recruited to side with BCA on the council, he should have switched back then because had he done so, at least he would have some credibility left. He can run as an independent or otherwise, but to the eyes of the voters based on his record he will be no different than the current BCA incumbents, except for the fact that he will be running with his own money and will probably lose, and I too hope BCA will consider him for membership for what he has done for their party since it will be sad to see that Gary Begin cant even get BCA to yield. And it will be even worse to retire after losing the next election with him quitting the party over a letter from that party leader that is close to charging him as a traitor.

3/22/2008 11:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Both sides here seem to love Slate Politics.
That's too bad for the voters.

I prefer candidates who are willing to speak their minds and break party ranks once in a while. Of course, there are always those who split ranks for personal gain, and figuring out a politician's motivation is never easy, but let me try.

Rankin is a man of principles because he went completely from one side to the other.
Begin has no principles because he only went halfway.
Hmmm .... why doesn't that have the ring of truth?

3/23/2008 4:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe one can say Mr. Rankin went completely to the other side. However there was no Team Burnaby before he formed it. Tough to say that was a low risk strategy of jumping to the other side.

3/23/2008 6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get a life people.

Gary has the right to run as an Independent if he chooses to do so,
as does Team Burnaby has the right to field candidates.

Is this going to keep going until the end of the election in November?

Get a life. Everyone else does.

3/23/2008 6:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually I thought most of the comments here are on topic this week. This is a change and nice to see. Now some unhappy soul is saying that we need to stop talking about Gary Begone.

3/23/2008 9:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for a new post.
And the Saggu story sounds delicious.

The guy is obviously politically naive to leave the country at the same time he's running for a BCA executive spot. Maybe he's not really interested in it the job, or he's not getting much experienced help. How much of an insider is he?

Another question - Who are the people accusing this obviously unpopular Board of Variance member? None of the 26 petitioners were named in the story.

Saggu could be a poison pill sent from the other side.

The largest media company in Canada (Canwest, owners of the Burnaby Now) has a tendency to publish anonymous accusations only when they have a political ax to grind.

Will the media name even one of the people who signed this petition? Or will this become an example of corporate racism?

3/25/2008 12:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand how it can be anonymous if it is signed by 26 people.
Mayor Corrigan and the letter to the editor by Dr Phil Moir called it anonymous too. What's up?

3/25/2008 1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares?

Petitions such as those online petitions are a waste of time.

If there is an actual written petitions with handwritten names, signatures, addresses and telephone/email information then you might have something.

There's no such thing as 'corporate racism'.

Racism is against specific people of colour or heritage.

3/25/2008 4:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's racism got to do with the Saggu scandal? A scummy BCA appointment is a scummy appointment regardless of race, colour and creed. This Saggu smell goes right to the mayor's office -- I bet this Saggu-gate has legs and the dirty trail leads right to Corrigan's office.

3/25/2008 6:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Racism? that is some strong word!?..But with such a old/white/male dominated city council & mayoral office, certainly someone like Patty Sahota would be the perfect mayoral candidate for change. But I think this focus on Saggu-gate has already taken much of the spotlight away from Gary Begin who is quickly fading into a non-factor, if not one already long ago.

3/25/2008 8:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patty Sahota is old news and is not an option for the voter looking for serious representation
in government.

3/25/2008 10:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Serious representation like Mayor Corrigan? Certainly he is no less serious than Mr. Democracy's bid to unseat his NDP colleague. Last election there too was a powerful incumbent mayor plagued by various scandals before his own party's councilor quitting the party to defeat him at his re-election, and Surrey's previous mayor, with just as much ambition for federal politics, pretty much ended his political career after the defeat.

3/25/2008 11:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Readers of the Burnaby Now that the pretentious "Dr." Phil Moir is the unofficial spokesman of Derek Corrigan. He's was also (surprise, suprise) a patronage appointee to the Mayor's Economic Development Task force. Are you really surprised that Corrigan and his unofficial spokesman are going to minimize this stinky Corrigan/NDP scandal? There is a smell about this that won't go away no matter how much Corrigan's sycophants and mouthpieces try to spin it.

3/26/2008 11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patti Sahota is old news.

Anyone who thinks she can be Mayor is fooling themselves.

She couldn't even take care of her own riding.

3/26/2008 5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patti is a better choice than the candidates that were running last time.
If they were a stellar group I would agree but they weren't.

3/27/2008 12:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless I am told the name of any one of the 26 petitioners, the Saggu continues to be anonymous.

Anonymous vague complaints = racism.

By the way. The BCA held its executive election on March 16. What happened to Saggu?

Did the Burnaby Now take a swipe, and then fail to follow-up, too?

That would be doubly racist! The pigs!

3/27/2008 12:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on now. I think we can believe the Burnaby Now when they say a petition was signed by 26 people. Frankly, bud, you don't need to know the names. The police need to know the names and and a full investigation of the petition needs to undertaken. The investigation should look back at any obvious permits that may be questionable. The period of time should be the full five years Mr. Saggu has been in office and it should look into the circumstances under which Mr. Saggu was appointed. The man in question is an independent framer in the construction business. It doesn't take a great leap to connect his trade with his bidding on contracts together with his ability to get a variance permit for an employer on any particular job. Did it happen? Only a full police investigation can get to the bottom of this.

For you to pull out accusations of "racism" here is completely over the top.

On a slightly different matter. I sugget Mr. Saggu is not out of the country as stated by Mayor Corrigan. Given that he may have been running for a position on the BCA executive and has obvioulsy become an embarassment, it is more likely that he is merely out of sight so he doesn't have to answer any questions?

3/27/2008 12:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

May alot of suggest that Team Burnaby actually come up with something positive?

Seems to alot of political watchers that Team Burnaby is spending alot of time on negativity rather than positive
aspects and seems to go from one negative issue to another.

Being critical of how Corrigan and his crew is good, but let's balance that off with something else.

Other than a group of sore losers and Negative Nelsons and Frustrated Friesens, what does Team Burnaby have to offer the voters??

3/28/2008 1:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 12:48 p.m:

Don't be so quick to let the local newspaper off the hook. There's many aspects of the Saggu story that are incomplete. Such as:

* Was there really an investigation? (probably not)
* What is the result of the mayor's 'in-camera' review? (probably nothing)
* Did Saggu win his BCA executive post? (probably not)
*Was Saggu really out of the country? ( or did the mayor lie?)

I will only retract the allegation of racism when this story is complete.

3/28/2008 3:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The most important question on this
Saggu thing is..

"Who cares??"

3/28/2008 4:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is burnaby politics buddy
if you dont care - Go home!

ha ha

3/28/2008 4:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless the police starts investigating this matter and actually begins prosecuting our mayor, I dont see this attack too credible against BCA, unless of course Lee Rankin or even someone from BCA such as Colleen Jordan put his or her name as the 27th petitioner, that is not going to sway enough votes to TB.

However, I am liking our media more and more with them willing to stand up to the governing party and its supporters. I truly believe they may very well be the catalyst for change 8 months from now.

3/28/2008 5:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't wait for any prosecuting the Mayor to happen.

Evan having a half-credible candidate for mayor isn't going to sway enough votes to TB.

If TB has to rely on the media to stand up to the governing party then they really haven't got much to sell the voters.

3/28/2008 6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I could not remember the last mayor getting indicted except in Port Moody Mayor who was called to resigned by those pro-mayor councilors. And in that case, it takes a lot less than half-credible anti-mayor candidate to win the next election. And certainly corruption charge, if proved to be true, is much worst to face and will easily wipe out the party majority on the council.

The responsibility of the media to be more critical, if not equally critical as the TB councilors, of those in power. No one is questioning the loyalty some have shown behind the mayor, but media should certainly continue doing what it is obliged to do despite the fact that some pro-mayor councilors and supporters may question the paper's credibility. The more critical the government is on the media, the less likely they will enjoy the popular mandate they perceive they will be getting come next election.

3/28/2008 6:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was the Saggu story:

a) an attack against the NDP
b) a clandestine attempt to help the NDP clear out deadwood
c) a clumsy attempt to promote Team Burnaby, or
d) just a good story?

I really don't know the answer, but if it was a good story we should know if Saggu was elected to a BCA executive position at the March 16 meeting.

(Any bets that Saggu's name never even make it onto the ballot. If so, that means the Burnaby NOW carried incorrect information which they have yet to retract.)

3/29/2008 3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would Burnaby Now launch an attack on NDP? As much as the mayor wants to see the paper abolished after "computergate", they have not done anything out of the ordinary. The problem is not with the media, maybe it is time to question the person who may have originated the whole thing rather than the paper itself.

3/29/2008 5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did Corrigan explicitly say he wanted the Burnaby Now abolished?

Where is this statement??

3/29/2008 5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not yet, but I think it is pretty safe to say that the less than nice comments our mayor has for the paper, our mayor and his colleagues probably wont be seeking its endorsement. Worst, having to take on TB and the paper in the election at the same time is not gonna make the race pretty.

3/29/2008 6:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not yet, but I think it is pretty safe to say that the less than nice comments our mayor has for the paper, our mayor and his colleagues probably wont be seeking its endorsement."

Does not mean the statement is true.

Did Corrigan actually call for the abolition of the Burnaby Now? No, its more spectulative commentary from someone in Team Burnaby once again.



Worst, having to take on TB and the paper in the election at the same time is not gonna make the race pretty.

Taking on TB isn't much, because there isn't anything in there, other than a bunch of people who seem to complain alot and right now does not have anything to offer the voters.

3/29/2008 7:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"No, its more spectulative commentary from someone in Team Burnaby once again."
Who knows, maybe TB has bought out the paper well ahead of the election just to see Mayor Corrigan unseated. Even so, luckily, the paper will always side with the people, and in all democratic systems that will continue to be the winning side. There is not question once Lee Rankin gets elected, or any other TB mayoral candidate, the paper will be just as critical of the mayor. I hope then we wont be seeing Garth Evans jumping out and trying to discredit the paper.

3/30/2008 8:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"the paper will always side with the people and in all democratic systems that will continue to be the winning side"

Hilarious.
Do you mean democratic like the US or Russia?
And remember, we're talking about Canwest Global here.

Sheesh, again!

3/30/2008 3:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Canwest Global or otherwise, it continues to be our local paper and most if not all residents in Burnaby do take everything in the paper very seriously. If the mayor thinks this entire matter appearing on the first page of the paper has not scared off some voters, then I suppose he and his NDP should hold of his crusade for truth on Canwest Global, Burnaby Chapter.

3/30/2008 5:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who knows, maybe TB has bought out the paper well ahead of the election just to see Mayor Corrigan unseated.

Doubt that would happen. It's owned by Canwest.


Even so, luckily, the paper will always side with the people, and in all democratic systems that will continue to be the winning side.

That's not any paper's role. Their
role is to report whether one party or the other likes what they write or not.




There is not question once Lee Rankin gets elected, or any other TB mayoral candidate, the paper will be just as critical of the mayor.

That's their job. They will be supportive, but they will be critical. It depends on how a Mayor conducts himself. It is he himself who will effect the outcome of editorials.




I hope then we wont be seeing Garth Evans jumping out and trying to discredit the paper.

I hope Garth will not run again.

He's had his time. Time for someone else.

3/30/2008 5:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pritam Saggu, the person in discussion earlier in the blog, is known to have taken bribes from locals.

Pritam Saggu built a new house on Sidley street in Burnaby and then covered his deck and extended to build a new deck and covered his two car garage to make a big suite. Nobody at city hall did anything about that. Looks like Burnaby is the place to be to get away with anything. How pathetic.

4/18/2008 7:11 PM  

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