Monday, February 11, 2008

Burnaby on the Throne

Tomorrow Steven Point, our new representative of the Queen, makes his first throne speech for the Campbell Liberals. The symbolic date, two years prior to the start of the Olympics and 15 months prior to election day is not to be overlooked.

On the one hand B.C. will be getting more "Olympic gold" from its government in the form of Spirit Squares, Gateway initiatives, 150th anniversary funding, and actual Olympic cash. On the other hand, the government needs to show they mean business in communities where the Liberal-NDP fight is tight like in good old Burnaby with big picutre ideas for post-secondary education and skills training, transit infrastructure, and green projects.

Tomorrow is only the opening act to the real show next week when Finance Minister Carole Taylor swoops in with the cash allocations for the province. Despite the dollars being a week away, tomorrow is of significance. This is likely the last substantial sitting of the legislature until the May 12, 2009, election. What gets (re)announced tomorrow will likely be the main set of issues on for Gordon Campbell's BC Liberals to campaign on come the election.

As for the NDP, shifting the debate to areas where the Liberals are weak, namely the ministry of children and families, is going to be their main goal over the next year. NDP leader Carole James already has launched a preemptive strike.

38 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kinda missing a few things there.

First this won't be the last substainial sitting before the election, since there will be another, including a March 2009 Budget before the election. It is that budget, not this one that will be what the Gordomatic will run on.

As for Burnaby and big picture ideas, there's not much of anything of significance in post secondary education that is exclusive to Burnaby.

Transit infrastructure has already been announced, and there isn't that much to be added to Burnaby other than the RapidBus western end at Lougheed Mall.

Why would 15 months out from an election be of any significance?

As for the NDP, expect them to finally become what they used to be, a strong opposition. A good government needs a strong opposition, and a strong opposition party. Keeps everyone
on their toes.

WHo the heck would ever want to
return to the environment where
there were 72 MLAs on the BC Liberal side?

That's way too much government.

A good government would be one that is +8 to +12 seats in a majority position.

2/11/2008 10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent moderate throne speech and NDP simply cannot jump on. One is not so sure now how NDP can position themselves without looking like socialists. What a contrast from the last term where the premier tries to impose his over-reaching authority on all matters without regard for any protest, much of it unsuccessful under the "failed" leadership of Joyce MacPhail. Now we have a government and an opposition that are competing to become centrist, but much of the harm will be done to the NDP come next election. It will be interesting to see the calibres of the candidates both candidates nominate at the end of this year.

2/13/2008 1:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Excellent moderate throne speech and NDP simply cannot jump on."

Obviously a response from a huge
supporter of Gordon Campbell.

"One is not so sure now how NDP can position themselves without looking like socialists."

News for you. The NDP is specifically democratic socialist and has been since it was put together.


"What a contrast from the last term where the premier tries to impose his over-reaching authority on all matters without regard for any protest, much of it unsuccessful under the "failed" leadership of Joyce MacPhail."

Gordon Campbell was a bit much to take back then, and he made alot of errors.

McPhail was a disaster, but Gordon Campbell wasn't exactly stellar after he won the 1994 Leadership, either. He lost the 1996 election.

"Now we have a government and an opposition that are competing to become centrist, but much of the harm will be done to the NDP come next election."

Some damage will occur to the BC Liberals as well. The BC Liberals cannot blame the NDP for adherent problems since it has been two terms. They will have to run on their record, no question.

"It will be interesting to see the calibres of the candidates both candidates nominate at the end of this year."

Let's see. We have a friendly but sometimes hard to understand MLA (Richard Lee), another one who is
friendly easy to approach and yet doesn't do very much (John Nuraney), and a third who isn't exactly friendly and is on a power trip in hopes of getting a Parliamentary Secretary's job or a Cabinet Post (Harry Bloy), and a fourth who is not exactly friendly either and hasn't been much of anything except for his own area of comfort (Raj Chouhan).

2/13/2008 4:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"News for you. The NDP is specifically democratic socialist and has been since it was put together."
Had BCNDP presided over a prosperous time as Hugo Chavez did, then they could have won 72 seats in 2001, but we know what happened BCL will make sure that sticks with BCNDP wherever no matter how centrist Carole James wants to be and even a faint scent of socialism will give Campbell all the firepower he needs.

So one wonders how BCNDP can position itself in 09. With the incumbents taking up much of the space from BCNDP equity policy, Mayor Corrigan is close to being banned from running for BCNDP, as many of the federal NDP and left-wing activists will also be blocked from running. But NDP was built with a promise to deliver a socialist utopia and unfortunately it will compete badly against BCL trying to become moderate. And it will be even worse if they decide to move back to the base which will become ideal target for Campbell's campaign to attack. Unfortunately, with the insurgence of GP, BCNDP is destined to stay in opposition indefinitely no matter how hard Carole James tries.

2/14/2008 7:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The NDP is trying to put a moderate face on a party that is dedicated solely to delivering the goods to the B.C. Fed. of Labour and the public sector unions who fund its campaigns. Don't forget -- Ken Georgetti fired Mike Harcourt and Jim Sinclair will fire Carole James when she loses again.
As for Corrigan, he probably can't stagger out of the bar long enough to muster a decent leadership campaign although he's the perfect guy to deliver the lolly to his trade union buddies.

2/14/2008 10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The NDP is trying to put a moderate face on a party that is dedicated solely to delivering the goods to the B.C. Fed. of Labour and the public sector unions who fund its campaigns. Don't forget -- Ken Georgetti fired Mike Harcourt and Jim Sinclair will fire Carole James when she loses again.
As for Corrigan, he probably can't stagger out of the bar long enough to muster a decent leadership campaign although he's the perfect guy to deliver the lolly to his trade union buddies.

2/14/2008 10:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The NDP is trying to put a moderate face on a party that is dedicated solely to delivering the goods to the B.C. Fed. of Labour and the public sector unions who fund its campaigns."

Well, the BC Liberals aren't exactly a mirror image of what a provincial Liberal party should be either. For a party that was liberal, it sure seems to be conservative.

"Don't forget -- Ken Georgetti fired Mike Harcourt and Jim Sinclair will fire Carole James when she loses again."

Harcount left on his own. He was not fired by Georgetti. The only
persons who can let go of a leader are the members in a leaddership review.

"As for Corrigan, he probably can't stagger out of the bar long enough to muster a decent leadership campaign although he's the perfect guy to deliver the lolly to his trade union buddies."

Guess the same thing could be said about Harry Bloy. Not the bar part, but one wonders about those after hours meetings that have allegedly taken place in his riding office leading up to the formulation of Team Burnaby a few years ago.

2/14/2008 1:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Guess the same thing could be said about Harry Bloy. Not the bar part, but one wonders about those after hours meetings that have allegedly taken place in his riding office leading up to the formulation of Team Burnaby a few years ago."

Do elaborate.

2/15/2008 10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do your homework.

2/15/2008 11:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Guess the same thing could be said about Harry Bloy. Not the bar part, ...........".

I too was wondering just what was meant by this pearl of wisdom?? Did it have something to do with booze? Or is this just more smear talk by someone who always suggests that doing "homework" will reveal all.

Was Mr. Homework sitting outside Harry's office taking late night photos like an old-style gumshoe? I think he just makes this shit up every time esomeone challenges him.

2/16/2008 1:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It ain't shit. It's well know by a few that Harry has had after hours meetings in his riding office with those who are very much interested in Burnaby's Team Burnaby.

It's out there. Just need to know where to find it ;-)

If Mr. Homework was sitting outside Harry's office, trust me,
if tehre were pictures taken no one would know. Then there's the audio part..

2/16/2008 4:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be it urban legend or not, no one is doubting the tactics Harry Bloy is using to unseat the powerful mayor. But again, even considering the difficulty of keeping the party united, it is not to him to decide how successful his master plan is, it is up to the voters.

BCA must have seen BCL coming together under TB far away anyways, but even themselves could not stop TB from "stealing" two seats and shall TB gain two more seats, Corrigan, once surviving the re-election, may well see his party be relegated to minority for the first time in his political career that spans two decades. So will BCA, much of them carried by the two NDP MP's, survive a campaign of change largely backed by BCL? If the voters do decide on change, then Nick Volkow and some of his fellow councilors may have to bid good-bye to city hall, along with, very possibly, our dear mayor Derek Corrigan.

2/16/2008 5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't bet the rent on that jsut yet.

If the BCL's relied on Team Burnaby talent to win anything they are really in trouble.

But everyone knows Team Burnaby is just a farm team of Harry Bloy's
campaign anyway.

2/16/2008 7:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But everyone knows Team Burnaby is just a farm team of Harry Bloy's"

They may. But that will not matter to their decisions to either keep Corrigan in power or otherwise. 02 result has shown that despise the deep connection with BCNDP, BCA was still able to keep themselves in power. The key has always been the union endorsement in a low turn out election and that will continue to be BCA's strategy to maximize the votes from its base. Some already know this but most will not care.

So will the general electorates care about Harry Bloy's tactics to oppose Burnaby NDP clan? They probably wont while one would probably applaud his bravery. Rather, when facing a choice to choose between Corrigan's team and Bloy's team, they will be seeking for a reason for change. Will mud-slings work? Maybe. But that is not even close to a winning strategy. We still do not know what policy platforms TB is adopting to take on BCA. If it is an effective however, no matter ho much BCA wants to cry foul, BCA is not going to be able to stop people from voting against them.

Policy platforms are themselves platforms, and there are no parties better than using them to win elections than BCL. It will be interesting to see how Harry Bloy can apply it to local politics so to increase the votes he needs to bring TB into power.

2/16/2008 11:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It's out there. Just need to know where to find it ;-)"

Someone has been watching too many old X-files re-runs. Harry Bloy may not like the BCA, but the only major concern he has is how to get himself and two more Burnaby BCL's elected again. That job will be hard enough without spending late nights at his office dreaming of ideas on how to help T/B.

2/16/2008 11:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Someone has been watching too many old X-files re-runs. Harry Bloy may not like the BCA, but the only major concern he has is how to get himself and two more Burnaby BCL's elected again."

Harry need only concern himsself with his re-election.

He doens't need to interfere with Richard or John's re-election efforts. They can do that on their own.

"That job will be hard enough without spending late nights at his office dreaming of ideas on how to help T/B."

considering that idea didn't work in the first place.

Harry hasn't helped T/B in fact he's probab;y made it worse than it already was in some people's minds.

T/B would be much better off without him being in there.

2/17/2008 5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But everyone knows Team Burnaby is just a farm team of Harry Bloy's"

Are you insane? Who was the last team member brought up from the farm?

2/21/2008 12:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many of Harry's friends ran the 2005 Team Burnaby campaign.

Quite a few got paid.

Farm teams don't nessesarily apply to candidates.

Also Lee Rankin is a good friend of Harry Bloy, and it has been said by one of Harry's friends who is front and centre in Team Burnaby that

"the nomination is promised to Lee".

'Nuff said.

The reasearch has been provided.
Now, be sure to your homework.

Many others have.

2/21/2008 7:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Lee and Bloy are practically brothers, but the voters will not care, neither will they care if the entire team is parachuted from BCL.

Lee was guaranteed the nomination because of his incumbency, not to mention his years of services on the council. That goes a long while a BCA councilor was booted out of the nomination thanks to their ruler. One can say that make sense but in terms of campaign successes, what BCA did would not achieve much.

2/21/2008 7:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Lee is so good, then he should be put to the test, the membership should be entitled to decide whether they want him or not to represent Team Burnaby. Otherwise it's not democratic and certainly makes one wonder why bother with Team Burnaby if the membership can't decide who is the candidate.

There's no sense in being critical of the BCA being NDP, when at the same time Team Burnaby is now said to be tied to the BC Liberals.

2/21/2008 12:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TEAM Burnaby isn't tied to the B.C. Liberals. However, rumour has it that Harry Bloy is pushing for Garth Evans who is a bigwig on the Burnaby North Liberal executive so something like that would sure make TEAM Burnaby look like a Liberal farm team versus the NDP farm team. TEAM Burnaby is open to everyone. But, you have to be a card-carrying NDPer to join Corrigan and his pals in the BCA. The BCA runs hard core NDPers like Burnaby New West NDP and Burnaby Edmonds NDP president Paul McDonnell and provincial NDP vice-president dumbo Dhaliwal.

2/21/2008 2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"TEAM Burnaby isn't tied to the B.C. Liberals."

Yeh right. Team Burnaby's campaign
was run by two BC Liberal organizers and many people from Burquitlam's BC Liberal association from what I was told.
If it ain't true, provide a cite.

"However, rumour has it that Harry Bloy is pushing for Garth Evans who is a bigwig on the Burnaby North Liberal executive so something like that would sure make TEAM Burnaby look like a Liberal farm team versus the NDP farm team."

Sure would, and it is happening.

Also heard from the street that harry at one time was on the Election Prepardness committee for that civic party.

So this argument that the BCA is an NDP farm team has no value since Team Burnaby is very much tied to Harry Bloy and the BC Librals.

"TEAM Burnaby is open to everyone."

Why bother if the membership cannot vote for any candidate for any civic nomination?

Seems like a waste of time if candidates are pre-picked and protected by this incumbency rule.

"But, you have to be a card-carrying NDPer to join Corrigan and his pals in the BCA."

That's constitutional. It's been there since the late 1980's, but
at least with them they have democratically chosen candidates for the membership to choose from.
Team Burnaby at this time does not.

"The BCA runs hard core NDPers like Burnaby New West NDP and Burnaby Edmonds NDP president Paul McDonnell and provincial NDP vice-president dumbo Dhaliwal."

And Team Burnaby has Harry Bloy and his pals running things.

What's the real difference on that one? Not much.

Team Burnaby has hand picked candidates at this stage.

The BCA at least lets the membership attending a nomination meeting choose theirs.

2/21/2008 4:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, this so called "democracy" among NDP insiders is certainly a breath of fresh air. Who wouldnt want to carry the party's membership just so they can vote on candidates, many of them already predestined to be nominated thanks to the "endorsement" of the mayor.

"TEAM Burnaby isn't tied to the B.C. Liberals. "
There is a lot of truth in it of course. Just because both parties are the products of anti-NDP support consolidation, though with many similarities and common members, are not "connected" where the BCL members do not have to endorse TB candidates or risk treason otherwise.

But does Harry Bloy possess as much as control over TB as Mayor Corrigan has over his BCA? No, not by a mile. (Again, a BCA incumbent was booted out of its party nomination as it is simply unforgivable not not stay "loyal" within the mayor's small circle." ). What makes one wonder is how Harry Bloy can in fact expand the base and motivate the desire for change, a strategy that put BCNDP into almost into extinction and turned its mayor into a federal liberal.

2/21/2008 7:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, this so called "democracy" among NDP insiders is certainly a breath of fresh air. Who wouldnt want to carry the party's membership just so they can vote on candidates, many of whom already predestined to be nominated thanks to the "endorsement" of the mayor.

"TEAM Burnaby isn't tied to the B.C. Liberals. "
There is a lot of truth in it of course. Just because both parties are the products of anti-NDP support consolidation, though with many similarities and common members, they are not "connected" where the BCL members do not have to endorse TB candidates or risk treason otherwise.

But does Harry Bloy possess as much control over TB as Mayor Corrigan has over his BCA? No, not by a mile. (Again, a BCA incumbent was booted out of its party nomination as it is simply unforgivable not not stay "loyal" within the mayor's small circle." ). What makes one wonder is how Harry Bloy can in fact expand the base and motivate the desire for change, a strategy that put BCNDP almost into extinction and turned its leader into a federal liberal.

2/21/2008 7:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, this so called "democracy" among NDP insiders is certainly a breath of fresh air. Who wouldnt want to carry the party's membership just so they can vote on candidates, many of whom already predestined to be nominated thanks to the "endorsement" of the mayor.

and how is that diferent from the "endorsement" of let's say Harry Bloy who does not hold any civic office and never has?

At least the BCA does choose its candidates and one of them lost out last time because she didn't do her homework leading to the nomination meeting.

At least the BCA allows its members to choose. All of them.


"TEAM Burnaby isn't tied to the B.C. Liberals. "

There is a lot of truth in it of course.

No there isn't since many of the power boys in Team Burnaby are tied to the BC Liberals, but that's okay since the BCL is the only political game in town against the NDP, but the BCL in Burnaby have erred in exercising the BCL Party into it.

"Just because both parties are the products of anti-NDP support consolidation,"

What both parties??


"though with many similarities and common members, they are not "connected" where the BCL members do not have to endorse TB candidates or risk treason otherwise."

Treason?? Surely you jest. And how is it that Team Burnaby is going to know which BCL Member voted for which candidate in the civic election? That sort of thing is against the law.

"But does Harry Bloy possess as much control over TB as Mayor Corrigan has over his BCA? No, not by a mile."

Bull and shit. He was known to be
wanted to be on the Election Prepardness Committee of T/B but was denied and now he's howling mad at that.

(Again, a BCA incumbent was booted out of its party nomination as it is simply unforgivable not not stay "loyal" within the mayor's small circle." ).

There was more to it than just that with Lee Rankin.

"What makes one wonder is how Harry Bloy can in fact expand the base and motivate the desire for change, a strategy that put BCNDP almost into extinction and turned its leader into a federal liberal."

He can't.

As for the BCNDP, they aren't into extinction and won't be.

They will be around, and will probably regain their strength to bite Harry in the ass.

Be there when it happens.

2/21/2008 8:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Treason?? Surely you jest. And how is it that Team Burnaby is going to know which BCL Member voted for which candidate in the civic election? That sort of thing is against the law."

Treason as in endorsement for the candidate or expulsion from BCA. That continues to be the game that BCNDP and BCA played. But all this comparison as to which party is more democratic is getting out of hand. No one is stopping anyone from joining TB to run as a candidate, be he or she one of the Bloy's. BCA has been in power for more than two decades and has always hinged its success on the council from the core voters. But the requirement for pledging alliance to federal NDP before selecting the mayoral candidate come next nomination race or risk taking on the entire NDP clan in Burnaby shows this sort of democracies also has its own shortfall.

"As for the BCNDP, they aren't into extinction and won't be."

No they are not and admittedly BCA has more structured grassroots organization after such along time in power and anyone that has the fortune to lead the party commands great advantages against any opposition. No is in doubt that Harry's effort to unite the opposition will likely evoke retribution from BCA on Bloy own re-election campaign. But such is a nature of the zero-sum game of politics: eat or be eaten. Quiet and civil as Richard Lee, some councilor from BCA cannot wait to see him unseated. And people are wondering why Harry Bloy is playing both sides federally against NDP?

Serving under Gordon Campbell, Harry Bloy has learned a lot from him. He has learned that the way to win elections is through endless campaigning, even more importantly so for those in opposition to expand the support so a change of power can be achieved. Harry barely survived his previous election in a riding that had been overlooked by BCNDP and it will be too naive of him not trying to do something about it. But how to translate into profound reasons to bring new voters out to support the party he put together will be the key to his campaign successes.

2/21/2008 11:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"But how to translate into profound reasons to bring new voters out to support the party he put together will be the key to his campaign successes."

The party he put together. So it's now known (despite denials from others on this blog) that Team Burnaby is nothing more than Team Bloy and a Harry Bloy farm team.

If Harry would stop trying to influence federal and civic politics in Burnaby, and concentrate where it matters - his own riding - he may have something

He may be learning from Gordon Campbell, but whether he passes the final exam is something completely different.

". No one is stopping anyone from joining TB to run as a candidate, be he or she one of the Bloy's. "

Whether he or she one of the Bloy's should not matter. Bloy should not have any say in what happens within Team Burnaby same goes for any BC Liberal MLA.

"But the requirement for pledging alliance to federal NDP before selecting the mayoral candidate come next nomination race or risk taking on the entire NDP clan in Burnaby shows this sort of democracies also has its own shortfall. "

Has it? It has worked for the BCA.

The connection is not with the federal NDP constitutionally, it is with the BC New Democrats, who are in turn a subset of the federal NDP (the same thing existed
with the BC Liberals up until 1992 they were a constitutional subset of the federal Liberal Party, but they had no civic element).

All of this really has nothing to do with saving Burnaby from the NDP.

It has everything to do with Harry's consistent power broking thinking this will save his MLA's salary from extinction. Then add his wanting power and influence
and you end up with a short fat guy wanting power and a civic party on the conservative/liberal side which was originally supposed to a strong positive alternative but ended up as a political mess.

2/22/2008 7:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good lord this gets boring. Every topic gets to the same place - Harry Bloy and his attempts to dominate Burnaby politics.

Yawn.

2/23/2008 10:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good lord this gets boring. Every topic gets to the same place - Harry Bloy and his attempts to dominate Burnaby politics.

Yawn.

2/23/2008 10:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It does get boring. It is never easy to turn untruth interesting.

2/24/2008 8:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's never easy to present facts either.

The fact remains is that Harry is wanting to influence Team Burnaby, otherwise why would he be in there
(as in wanting to be involved with that civic party's Election Prepardness), and why would he even bother to support both a Conservative (Yonah Martin) and a Liberal (Bill Cunningham?)

Can't support both, it's either one or the other otherwise he looks the fool more than he already is.

Harry wants Lee Rankin as Mayor.

2/24/2008 3:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The untruth lies in the claim that Harry Bloy is going to be the puppet master behind everything in sight once the party he put together removes BCA from power. But it is more than obvious that even himself does not believe that he has the network no matter how much help he gets from above to take on BCA. Appointment of Harry Bloy's close circles onto the slate is unlikely going to be observed, very unlikely.

"Can't support both, it's either one or the other otherwise he looks the fool more than he already is."

Which part of the "anti-NDP" principle that established Campbell administration do you not get? When Harry Bloy runs to defend his seat, he will need all the help he needs.

Yonah Martin was personally backed by James Moore and Bill Cunningham, while un-electable, continues to be a "star candidate" within the party circle. If Harry Bloy is truly backing Lee Rankin, who has said not so nice things about Mayor Corrigan, then forget Richard Lee, BCA will make sure they see Harry Bloy fall who will need all the help he needs, especially if, God forbid, Harry's effort to unseat the sitting mayor succeeds.

2/24/2008 6:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The untruth lies in the claim that Harry Bloy is going to be the puppet master behind everything in sight once the party he put together removes BCA from power."

There ya go. The party he put together. You think he would put something like that together and just leave? Dream on.

"But it is more than obvious that even himself does not believe that he has the network no matter how much help he gets from above to take on BCA. "

That's what he's telling people to protect what is most likely his motive.

"Appointment of Harry Bloy's close circles onto the slate is unlikely going to be observed, very unlikely."

Fat chance that will happen. It ocurred for the Team Burnaby campaign in 2005, and many wouldn't bet much that it would not happen once again.


"Can't support both, it's either one or the other otherwise he looks the fool more than he already is."

Which part of the "anti-NDP" principle that established Campbell administration do you not get?"

What part of that of silly nonsense
statement needs to be erased?

"When Harry Bloy runs to defend his seat, he will need all the help he needs. "

Why him and not the other Liberal
MLAs such as John and Richard?

If Harry has done a good job of representing the voters, he won't have anything to worry about and doesn't need to expand his influence beyond his provincial riding.

"Yonah Martin was personally backed by James Moore (a Conservative so no big deal there) and Bill Cunningham (highly unsual for a federal Liberal to be supporting a candidate of one of their opposition candidates) while un-electable, continues to be a "star candidate" within the party circle. "

Star Candidates don't mean anything to the electorate. The label is not much more than an ego booster.


If Harry Bloy is truly backing Lee Rankin, who has said not so nice things about Mayor Corrigan, then forget Richard Lee, BCA will make sure they see Harry Bloy fall who will need all the help he needs, especially if, God forbid, Harry's effort to unseat the sitting mayor succeeds.

Harry needs no more help than John or Richard does and shouldn't get
any more than those two.

2/24/2008 6:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kind of odd that harry's taken up this 'scorched earth' idea of total elimination of the NDP.

Some government MLA's have done fine getting re-elected with the NDP around.

The guy is turning into a bit of headcase.

and a headache for the serious political watcher.

2/24/2008 8:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on guys. Obviously, the truth lies a few pay grades above the previous 34 comments. Harry Bloy doesn't give a damn about T/B. He never did. The only reason he has shown any interest in the past or will for the 2008 election is because the T/B election campaign allows him to grab up-to- date door knocking and phone bank information.

It's a smart move if you think about it. Where else could he get $60,000 worth of data for free just six months before the Gordo's legislated election date.

There has also been an overly large BCLP contingent in the campaign room in the past - all with their hands out. Would you believe several were even running two campaigns at once? Would the T/B Directors who fell for this line (twice)please stand up for a well deserved round of applause.

2/25/2008 9:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on guys. Obviously, the truth lies a few pay grades above the previous 34 comments. Harry Bloy doesn't give a damn about T/B. He never did.

That's a laugh riot. Surely you don't beleive that.


The only reason he has shown any interest in the past or will for the 2008 election is because the T/B election campaign allows him to grab up-to- date door knocking and phone bank information.

"allows him"? Why would T/B give that to him and not the others?

It's a smart move if you think about it. Where else could he get $60,000 worth of data for free just six months before the Gordo's legislated election date.

Dumb move on T/B's part. If it's worth $60,000 then obviously T/B can sell it to Harry and actually get something of value for it.

Why would they just give that sort of thing away?


There has also been an overly large BCLP contingent in the campaign room in the past - all with their hands out. Would you believe several were even running two campaigns at once?

That was a dumb move. Kinda spreading themselves a bit thin there.

Would the T/B Directors who fell for this line (twice)please stand up for a well deserved round of applause.

There's probably just four Directors left as it is.

2/25/2008 10:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets talk crazy conspiracy theories.
They're my favourite.

Say harry supports corrigan in real life more than he supports lee in that always amusing world of political fakery.

Harry could nominate Lee for mayor, work his butt off on a fruitless election campaign and after Lee loses by his biggest margin yet, Harry gets out of Burnaby - moving to Port Moody Coquitlam under redistribution - but still keeps a seat in the legislature.

Poor Lee, what will he do after losing his second run for mayor?

But wait! Maybe it's not so fruitless after all. What if this scenario allows Team Burnaby to pick up a seat or two on council.

Would Lee be as happy as his TB colleagues? Sure he would, cause he's not in it for himself.

Happy, happy, people. That's what make politics such a rewarding pastime.

3/04/2008 8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone has too much time on their hands.

Or has been taking in too much sugar.

Probably both.

3/05/2008 6:01 PM  

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