Friday, December 21, 2007

Reading the T. Lee(s)

With the year end open house season in full swing, this week featured Bill Cunningham and Richard T. Lee parties on the north side of the city. These are two politicians on two separate trajectories.

MLA Lee who has faced Pietro Calendino on three occasions and won the last two, Lee, with a little help from new condo developments, has turned an area friendly to the NDP into a battleground for 2009 if he choses to run for a third term. It should be a busy year as Lee positions himself for that re-election and possibly angles his way into cabinet.

On the other hand, federal Liberal candidate Cunningham has been running for the seat of Burnaby-Douglas for so long that if he was elected when he first began trying he'd be approaching pension eligibility. Next year should be even busier for Cunningham who could be continuing his trend of even-numbered year election losses to Bill Siksay but who would prefer to get into Parliament, ideally on the government front bench.

Until 2008 arrives, expect to find candidates enjoying their holidays and possibly taking a little delivery down to the local food bank or Christmas bureau. A well deserved break is needed after all these "Christmas parties" that get called open houses.

95 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

These are two politicians on two separate trajectories.

Correct - one Cunningham is going to crash in spectacular fashion as he goes down with both engines aflame like a big Lancaster bomber
heading to the battlefield nose down 30 degrees.

The second, Richard Lee will lose altitude but will be able to recover and land safely.

12/21/2007 4:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While over simplified, I believe Burnaby politics can be best described as a fight between the people and the power. NDP's grip on the power over Burnaby reached its peak during Svend Robinson's tenure as its representative in Ottawa, but has been sliding downhill fast since BCL wiped BCNDP out of Burnaby. The sitting NDP MP's are by far not even elected with a mandate. I think it is clear that Burnaby is ready for a change, ever since a popular BCL party helping remove the incumbents that had contributed their support to the previous NDP government.

But it is obvious that with anti-establishment factions dividing themselves along party lines, the NDP establishment will never be removed and it is more than obvious in all three levels of government. Provincially, the unity has yielded great success. Locally, the prospect of success is excellent. So, federally, can the anti-establishment factions be united?

I think it is possible. But I think it will require cooperation from all sides. Should the conservatives help consolidate the votes and remove NDP incumbents(Liberals are not expected to win barring miracles), they should let federal liberals choose their own star candidate to run against an NDP mayor in a campaign that will easily be framed as the battle for "change".

As for those people who would like to belong to the other side, I would think that those are the people that'll hurt the unity the most.

12/24/2007 11:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"but has been sliding downhill fast since BCL wiped BCNDP out of Burnaby. The sitting NDP MP's are by far not even elected with a mandate. I think it is clear that Burnaby is ready for a change, ever since a popular BCL party helping remove the incumbents that had contributed their support to the previous NDP government. "

Wrong on both counts.

The BC NDP has Raj Chouhan as MLA for Burnaby Edmonds, and it's well known that Richard T. Lee was barely able to win re-election.

Both Julian and Siskay do in fact have mandates, they were successful in their re-election in the last federal election.

Basic fundamentals -- a win at the ballot box on election day, means a four year mandate to represent the people.


"they should let federal liberals choose their own star candidate to run against an NDP mayor in a campaign that will easily be framed as the battle for "change".

As far as the federal Liberals go, they can do what they want, but the reality is the voters will be able to choose betwen a federal Conservative candidate, and a federal Liberal candidate in both Burnaby ridings.

Neither party is going to let go of a candidate, and most certainly not the Conservatives to make it easier for Bill Cunningham to be the sole candidate against the NDP.

12/27/2007 9:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As far as the federal Liberals go, they can do what they want, but the reality is the voters will be able to choose betwen a federal Conservative candidate, and a federal Liberal candidate in both Burnaby ridings."
That is more than clear. Given that talent of Bill Cunningham and the stardust he has received, Liberal Party itself needs to figure why it keeps losing.

Seriously however, does Bill Cunningham honestly believe he will be the choice the voters will put in Ottawa, let alone making it to the cabinet. And what sort of expectation is he setting up for himself next time? However, his courage should be applauded.

I will though say that as much as I hate to say it, but I think strategic voting will happen federally in Burnaby to give the voters someone who has a mandate for the first time in a long time because Svend Robinson I think most agree with me does not have a mandate to represent.

Locally, the anti-NDP factions have finally realigned to present a united front against Corrigan. While some who ran opposed to the mayor would like to endorse Corrigan's vision when they see fit, most however have still held on to the responsibility of being the loyal opposition accountable to the people. We will shortly observe the result if the voters will endorse this unity as they did with BCL. If the voters decide to do so federally, I would say that our Mayor Corrigan should really think about possibility of forcing the nomination against Richard Lee when he loses.

12/27/2007 6:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously however, does Bill Cunningham honestly believe he will be the choice the voters will put in Ottawa, let alone making it to the cabinet. And what sort of expectation is he setting up for himself next time? However, his courage should be applauded.

'Not getting the concept' should
be something Billy Boy should look
at.

A federal Liberal win nationally, with a win by Cunningham, doesn't automatically mean he'll end up in Cabinet. But that's a long shot outcome.

"I will though say that as much as I hate to say it, but I think strategic voting will happen federally in Burnaby to give the voters someone who has a mandate for the first time in a long time because Svend Robinson I think most agree with me does not have a mandate to represent. "

So why did you say it, if you hated to say it?

Why would Robinson be in the picture? He's in Paris with an international labour/socialist organization. He would not be MP again as there's no reason for him to do so. He has his MP's pension money and has essentially cashed out for good.

"Locally, the anti-NDP factions have finally realigned to present a united front against Corrigan."

Meaning the Team Bloy Boyz.


"While some who ran opposed to the mayor would like to endorse Corrigan's vision when they see fit, most however have still held on to the responsibility of being the loyal opposition accountable to the people."

Oh puhleez, not that again.

"We will shortly observe the result if the voters will endorse this unity as they did with BCL."

So 11 months is a short time?

"If the voters decide to do so federally, I would say that our Mayor Corrigan should really think about possibility of forcing the nomination against Richard Lee when he loses."

WHy not go to Corrigan himself and tell him? Essentially you're saying
"we want you to run against Richard Lee because we don't want you as the BCA's Mayorality candidate as we want a weak BCA mayorality candidate so we can win the mayor's office."

Then listen for the colourful language, starting with "you're full of shit"

12/27/2007 6:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and who is Corrigan supposed to lose to?

Oh right the Team Burnaby mayorality candidate "recommended" or "chosen" by Harry Bloy and/or his supporters working to ensure Harry's wishes are completed.

12/27/2007 7:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Why would Robinson be in the picture? "
Why? Because just like Robinson, Julian and Siksay have no mandate to represent. Same too applies to Mayor Corrigan as merely 10% more in turnout will could have easily overturned history.

Regarding Mayor Corrigan's reelection inevitable victory, I am certain it would not sound as much a fairytale to those who endorse him as to others. But shall the unthinkable happen when the anti-NDP factions can motivate enough people to vote for a change, he will probably have to force the nomination onto him against Richard Lee. Not that he is not thinking about it as those in the riding are already opposing NDP's affirmative action.

I would say the days of NDP walking to victories are history and Corrigan's "inevitable" victories are by no means automaic.

12/27/2007 8:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why? Because just like Robinson, Julian and Siksay have no mandate to represent.

Actually they do, since they won re-election in 2005.

Same too applies to Mayor Corrigan as merely 10% more in turnout will could have easily overturned history.

Doesn't matter. Corrigan won the majority of votes cast.

Don't fret over what could have been, the result was that T/B Burnaby didn't work hard enough to get those additional 10% turnouts.


Regarding Mayor Corrigan's reelection inevitable victory, I am certain it would not sound as much a fairytale to those who endorse him as to others. But shall the unthinkable happen when the anti-NDP factions can motivate enough people to vote for a change, he will probably have to force the nomination onto him against Richard Lee.

How so? Is it guaranteed that Corrigian would run in Burnaby North?

Not that he is not thinking about it as those in the riding are already opposing NDP's affirmative action.

Well that's a problem for the NDP to work out, not Team Burnaby or the BC Liberals.

Both don't have affirmative action, but both seem to have what is best described as 'direct action', in other words, the powers to be 'choosing the candidates' and making sure the 'preferred candidates win) and not really the membership at large.

"I would say the days of NDP walking to victories are history and Corrigan's "inevitable" victories are by no means automaic."

Don't be so complancement and comfy.

Besides, the Team Burnaby alternative may not turn out to be the best for Burnaby either.

What can be worrisome is all that pent up energy within Team Burnaby being suddenly released into rapid change, gifts for the campaign workers in terms of political goodies (such as what happened with the NPA with the appointment of the useless Caucus Director's position).

What Burnaby needs is sound civic managment, not a victory against Corrigian or the BCA per se.

and certainly not an outcome designed to please Harry Bloy or his anticipated "delivery of a victory" to his boss, Gordon Campbell to make Harry look good.

12/27/2007 8:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"How so? Is it guaranteed that Corrigian would run in Burnaby North?"
Depends on how badly he loses, because he may decide to retire after all. Certainly Corrigan can play up revenge against Harry Bloy and he might as well just pit his own BCA against Harry's Team Burnaby in the election. But either against Richard Lee, whose advantage has been pointed out by our blogger in the opening post, or against Harry Bloy, even with BCA and Bill Siksay on his side, he is very likely going to fail unseating the incumbents.

AS for civic management, sometimes Team Burnaby councilors can make mistakes and endorse the wrong government policies and decisions. But if Team Burnaby truly wants to win so they can bring change to the next civic government, they will have to present a united front in a campaign about change, no matter it is having an under 40 mayoral candidate or have candidates pledge voting for accountability or risk expulsion from party membership.

12/27/2007 11:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Depends on how badly he loses, because he may decide to retire after all. "

He may not nessesarily lose, and
again, why the emphasis of him running against Richard Lee?

He can most certainly move back to
his law practice, which would be
the best thing if he decides not to run again.

"Certainly Corrigan can play up revenge against Harry Bloy and he might as well just pit his own BCA against Harry's Team Burnaby in the election. But either against Richard Lee, whose advantage has been pointed out by our blogger in the opening post, or against Harry Bloy, even with BCA and Bill Siksay on his side, he is very likely going to fail unseating the incumbents. "

Considering that most of the incumbents are BCA members.

If you're thinking of Rankin, Begin, and Evans, that isn't 100% of what his goal is. His goal is to retain the Mayor's office and a majority of seats on council.

That's all he needs.

"AS for civic management, sometimes Team Burnaby councilors can make mistakes and endorse the wrong government policies and decisions."

and sometimes Team Burnaby councillors don't make the right decisions themselves.

Additionally they can endorse the right government policies and decisions which furhter prove to be wrong.

"But if Team Burnaby truly wants to win so they can bring change to the next civic government, they will have to present a united front in a campaign about change, no matter it is having an under 40 mayoral candidate or have candidates pledge voting for accountability or risk expulsion from party membership"

Team Burnaby also has to change their attitude. Let the councillors do what they were initially put there to do, represent the interests of Burnaby as a whole, and not be told what to do by a very smalll clique of so called political experts.

Team Burnaby seems to be very vindictive, and that's not being professional and not reflective of a civic party that wants to have its candidates be councillors.

A united front only works when there is a sound group for the membership to fully participate in (and not having a closed clique of
privileged people running the entire show). Otherwise it becomes a group where the membership is wasting their vounteer time which can be better spent elsewhere.

Neither Rankin or Evans are under 40 so where would this under 40 mayor candidate come from? Patti Sahota? Good grief, she hasn't done anything useful since she left the Premier's office as one of his political hacks. She couldn't win her riding back and some want her to be Mayor of a large city? Give it a rest.

She hasn't spent time as a councillor to learn civic government.

Team Burnaby has challenging times ahead.

Let's hope they overcome those challenges professionally and smartly and provide the voters with a real choice of good people a sound membership base and something that actually would work for the interests of Burnaby and not for the interests of a few close to Harry Bloy.

It's Team Burnaby's choice as to what they want to do with the group.

It will be interesting to see the outcome.

12/28/2007 8:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Neither Rankin or Evans are under 40 so where would this under 40 mayor candidate come from? Patti Sahota? Good grief, she hasn't done anything useful since she left the Premier's office as one of his political hacks. She couldn't win her riding back and some want her to be Mayor of a large city? Give it a rest
."

Did Rankin and Evans ever say that they will be running to become the mayor? I think it is obvious that one does not have to be on the council to know how to run a government. Niether Bloomberg or Giuliani had been on the council when they were first elected and they won re-elections by large margins. I guess the voters didnt really care much when they took too much time running multi-billion enterprise or representing hundreds of millions of Americans in cases in the national scale. Certain, long history on city council does not constitute good decision making, but it is even more obvious that it too will not constitute popularity. In terms of resume anyway, what is the last prominent position that Lee Rankin has held? Not to mention his support for unity comes too little too late given the history of his political career, but at least it is a step in the right direction if he wants to see Team Burnaby majority on the council. He too is not the perfect poster child for "change".

There are however many U40 political talents all around. Patty Sahota is merely one of them and there are plenty others. While Bill Cunningham continues to lose election, he continues to be the best U40 talents within federal liberals, though three losses in a row will probably take the last air out of his short careeri in elective politics.

George Drazenovic too is a talented U40 candidate with long history in businesses and in an era where politics has been about tax cuts, he will almost be the perfect mayoral candidate for TB if TB's is really for the vision they are campaigning for. And there is an even younger 2nd generation MP in the making coming from the south of the city in the effort to become the first non-NDP MP for Burnaby in decades. TB is not in lack of candidates who is capable of running the city. And someone like Patti Sahota, a star candidate no less, will be able to motivate more than enough votes out to bring in a new government. Shall voters be truly seeking change in the next election, it is obvious which party they will support.

12/28/2007 1:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Did Rankin and Evans ever say that they will be running to become the mayor?"

Good gawd man, where have you been?
Rankin's been aiming for the mayor's chair for quite sometime, and word on the street is that Evans is after the same thing.

"I think it is obvious that one does not have to be on the council to know how to run a government."

It helps. Alot.


"Niether Bloomberg or Giuliani had been on the council when they were first elected and they won re-elections by large margins. "

Different environment.


"I guess the voters didnt really care much when they took too much time running multi-billion enterprise or representing hundreds of millions of Americans in cases in the national scale."

Excatly. Has no equivalent in Canada let alone a 250,000 person city in British Columbia, and the politics is quite different.

"Certain, long history on city council does not constitute good decision making, but it is even more obvious that it too will not constitute popularity."

That would mean Rankin is out then.

"In terms of resume anyway, what is the last prominent position that Lee Rankin has held?"

Last I heard he was on the Finance and Transportation Committees, both very prominent. He is considered by many to be a 'senior councillor' because of his time of service.

"Not to mention his support for unity comes too little too late given the history of his political career, but at least it is a step in the right direction if he wants to see Team Burnaby majority on the council."

Considering that he was part of Team Burnaby Version 1.0.

"He too is not the perfect poster child for "change".

Doesn't have to be. If he does his time as councillor well, that's what matters to us taxpayers.

"There are however many U40 political talents all around. Patty Sahota is merely one of them and there are plenty others.

Yeh, sure. Patti couldn't get her
seat back at a time when it was very easy to do so (between Term 1 and Term 2 of the BC Liberals).

"While Bill Cunningham continues to lose election, he continues to be the best U40 talents within federal liberals, though three losses in a row will probably take the last air out of his short careeri in elective politics. "

Three large losses or significant losses in form in business means you're out the door.

George Drazenovic too is a talented U40 candidate with long history in businesses and in an era where politics has been about tax cuts, he will almost be the perfect mayoral candidate for TB if TB's is really for the vision they are campaigning for.

Oh puhleez, he had to be one of the worst candidates. Even the local Tories were hestitant about taking him.

He would be the perfect candidate for Team Burnaby's vision though.

That vision being a blurry one.


And there is an even younger 2nd generation MP in the making coming from the south of the city in the effort to become the first non-NDP MP for Burnaby in decades.

Yeh sure, heard that before. The south part of Burnaby will re-elect Peter Julian.

TB is not in lack of candidates who is capable of running the city.

With Rankin Spitz Evans and Begin, certainly not. The others?
Questionable to say the least.


"And someone like Patti Sahota, a star candidate no less, will be able to motivate more than enough votes out to bring in a new government. "

That is assuming that she actually knows how to do that. Personally I would not vote for her because she hasn't done anything for Burnaby to merit support.


Shall voters be truly seeking change in the next election, it is obvious which party they will support.

A mix of good candidates from both the BCA and Team Burnaby (Team Bloy) in a +1 majority for either side.

Best outcome the city could have.

12/28/2007 3:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Oh puhleez, he had to be one of the worst candidates. Even the local Tories were hestitant about taking him. "
People put can put all the spins the want on how he won tough nomination battles twice in a row and had forced a strong showing against a dubbed star candidate and an incumbent MP, but the truth is he won tough nomination battles twice in a row and had forced a strong showing against a dubbed star candidate and an incumbent MP On paper he is no less impressive than Mayor Corrigan. True, there has been some dissent within tories for his nomination, he is unquestionable a young and talented candidate to challenge BCA, again but in a different setting.

"With Rankin Spitz Evans and Begin, certainly not. The others?
Questionable to say the least."

It is tough to ask voters seeking for a change to support these four candidate that you have mentioned as they by far "out-lived" the average BCA councilors. While some of them are highly regarded by party membership, but it is tough to talk about new vision when you are at pension age, especially the team is already partly pro-Corrgain.

But Imagine having Sahota, Warawa, Drazenovic & Cunningham united under TB and suddenly sitting on the council opposing BCA's own mayor as opposed to those four you have mentioned. Such an U40 team looks no less competent than those TB members sitting on the council now.

"Last I heard he was on the Finance and Transportation Committees, both very prominent. He is considered by many to be a 'senior councillor' because of his time of service."
Regarding Rankin, I do recognize that he is senior, very senior. I believe that TB can certainly use more of his wisdom and experiences on the council. But those skills are best attributes that a councilor may have, but these skills do not transfer to the chief executive position. There are many differences between Corrigan and Bloomberg or Giuliani, very many. But in essence, election results has shown that the voters are smart enough to judge a candidate's competence on time spent on the legislative branch/city council, but rather on how much faith they have in the candidate's competence to executive the vision presented.

"A mix of good candidates from both the BCA and Team Burnaby (Team Bloy) in a +1 majority for either side."
I do not what percentages should be assigned to each faction to create the best mix because 1. there will always be battles, and 2. the opposition will continue to stay opposed with any significance. There is no difference between fully TB occupied government vs even split council with a TB mayor.

However, a TB government will come easily and like in every election will require efforts to create. Those four names commonly mentioned will have to start speaking in unity and I believe many of them are more the qualified to represent the voters. However, for them to see themselves in power, they will have to back a mayoral candidate that can actually represent change to bring out the voters they fail to appeal to. Patty Sahota again is the most appealing candidate for change as she is the only U40 candidate so far that actually has the credential of winning against the NDP establishment in Burnaby. Having these four councilors united behind Mayor Sahota is something that the voters will prefer over the current monolithic BCA government in power. But there are many young TB prospects in Burnaby that are too well qualified to be councilors too and having a team slate with four seniors and four young faces running in cooperation will be hard to beat for BCA's candidates most of whom will be incumbent councilors running again.

12/28/2007 6:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barb Spitz a good concillor? Are you kidding. The woman has lost the last two elections - and spent the last wo years blaming everyone under the sun for her loss. Sorry guys. She is also now in the 65-70 yr range.

Surely it is time to get a little new blood - under 60 at least if not under 50.

Gary B is also somewhere north of 65.

If T/B can get its act together it should be without these two albetrosses hanging on to use team's resources and then reneging on any commitments (written or otherwise)if they win.

12/28/2007 6:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Last I heard he was on the Finance and Transportation Committees, both very prominent. He is considered by many to be a 'senior councillor' because of his time of service."
Regarding Rankin, I do recognize that he is senior, very senior. I believe that TB can certainly use more of his wisdom and experiences on the council. But those skills are best attributes that a councilor may have, but these skills do not transfer to the chief executive position. There are many differences between Corrigan and Bloomberg or Giuliani, very many. But in essence, election results have shown that the voters are smart enough not to judge a candidate's competence on time spent on the legislative branch/city council, but rather on how much faith they have in the candidate's competence to execute the vision presented.

12/28/2007 6:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, all this is boring. Don't you nuts have anything else to do than to keep goin' on Team Burnaby, a party essentially run by Harry Bloy's people and is pretty much shredded in terms of credibility?

Enjoy the winter around here people!

Go to a Canucks game or skiing.

At least do an end or two at the curling rink.

12/28/2007 7:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Barb Spitz a good concillor? Are you kidding. The woman has lost the last two elections - and spent the last wo years blaming everyone under the sun for her loss. Sorry guys. She is also now in the 65-70 yr range.

Surely it is time to get a little

Gary B is also somewhere north of 65.

If T/B can get its act together it should be without these two albetrosses hanging on to use team's resources and then reneging on any commitments (written or otherwise)if they win."

I do not believe that Barb has ever been considered an albatross. Her experiences are excellent assets to have on the council. But the election for our chief executive is an election about vision rather than visibility. Shall TB yield candidacy for these four over 60 candidates, they need to come up with another four under 40 candidates or risk losing again. Having any one of these four leading the party against as the mayoral candidate is simply not viable for the victory this unity behind TB is set out to achieve.

True, Rankin has sat for a long time even with three kinds of membership on the council, sometimes sitting with Corrigan, sometimes against. No one doubts his experiences on the council will guarantee him another reelection win barring a personal non-partisan campaign. No one is also doubting his ambition with him running with federals against his former NDP colleagues. Long years of services he had in Burnaby have also granted him the highest respect within his party and council peers as a city councilor. But his ambition standing in the way of a possible landslide victory probably will not be accepted by the party membership . Some have mentioned him having a history of sitting on key committees, and he will no doubt be the only candidate to chair those committees shall his party becomes in power with all the experiences that he has gained from years of services on the council.

12/29/2007 9:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Barb Spitz not an albatross? What kind of a Team player would start doing personal fundraising befor the organization as a whole has paid off its debt? That's right Sherlock - the class of '59 cheerleader. The same one who tried to foist $12,000 of her personal debt onto the organization's books. I know it sounds weird but no could make this stuff up.

The wheels are coming off T/B faster than a car in a chop shop.

12/30/2007 1:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would it be important to set under 40 as a criteria? Seems that who ever came up with this idea is sort of going with the NDP, as they have an 'affirmative action' concept.

As for Barb Spitz, why rag on her?

Team Burnaby made a big deal out of the fact that she lost by only 6 votes and some idiots were going around thinking it was time to change how the balloting works.

She has lots to offer to Burnaby, certainly alot more than many other candidates.

The wheels have already fallen off T/B. What you're seeing is the carcass sliding towards the cliff.

12/30/2007 4:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lee Rankin has been a GVRD director for many years. He was the chairman of the GVRD finance committee. The GVRD board had handpicked him to do this job and he went on to do such a good job of it that he was praised by one and all. These facts were well recorded in the local papers a number of times in the nineties. Either the posters on this blogsite do not know their ABCs of politics in Burnaby or they are prejudiced Corrigan supporters.

The word on the street is that BCA is desperately trying these days to help promote a weak candidate for mayor against Corrigan. Their desperation has been showing up even on this blog site. Patty Sahota, Bill Cunningham, George Drazanovic, Tony Kuo's names have been suggested as excellent mayoral candidates against Corrigan.

And the nominees are...

Patty (couldn't win her riding back even after getting a "ministerial" tag with the help of her boyfrined DeJong)Sahota.

Bill (desperatley running, running, running and running...) Cunningham.

George (self-proclaimed millionaire who even the Tories wouldn't dream of nominating again) Drazanovic.

Tony (not even around) Kuo

well...are you sure Corrigan and BCA would be happy with these four or maybe you can find an even bigger loser than these four to make the BCA happy.

And by the way, Bloy and boys' choice is none of the above but Garth (snuck in by 80 votes) Evans.

12/30/2007 10:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tony Kuo did obtain an NDP party membership and he IS eligible to run for the mayoral nomination against Mayor Corrigan. More importantly, he can beat Mayor Corrigan in the mayor's own game. Not to mention the possibility of BCA's own members dropping incumbents for Tony Kuo's supporters to run for the council (as they did with the Mayor's "preferred" candidates over an incumbent).

Harry Bloy has successfully brought to gether a team that has been quite willing to oppose BCA. Most of its efforts has been quite successful in impressing the voters as the viable alternative. I believe that all these four TB members are more than capable for serving for another decade, but the need for new blood is more than urgent. In terms of council candidates that is obvious and the party members will have difficulty endorsing a slate that is by average older than BCA own councilors.

But the need for vision is even more important for the mayoral candidate which is crucial for both voter turn-out and campaign volunteer turn-out, both TB needs to score a victory. TB will run full 8 candidates on the slate in the next election and people can choose they would like to support or represent, but the decision to nominate our TB's mayoral candidate is the only factor that will determine the outcome of the election, not the capabilities of the candidates. It is difficult because like in all anti-NDP coalitions going back in history there will be dissent with some believing their seniority entitles them to certain things, but if they fail to achieve the goal to win power from BCA, much of this entitlement will be in vain anyway.

12/31/2007 11:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

*yawn*

Time to move on people and enjoy the winter, and then spring.


Harry Bloy, Team Burnaby...

Wash, rinse, spin, repeat.

12/31/2007 9:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hope everyone had a good new year's eve. I just get so excited in election years...cant wait:)..

1/06/2008 5:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Strange some people get excited about that big vacation trip, or
being able to buy a new car or house, or start that coveted job.

But whatever floats your boat..

New Year's Day was 5 days ago. Kinda slept in a bit didn't you.

1/06/2008 5:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not much to get excited about in an 'election year' in Burnaby.

Harry Bloy works to get his wish, (defeating Corrigan and making sure his preferred candidates get nominated within a civic party he and his minions control) and his flunkies make sure that he does.

Wash, rinse, spin, repeat..

1/06/2008 10:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wash/rinse/spin/repeat has a point. At least two people have been very harshly treated in these postings. This is not unusual on this blogsite.

It is time to move on.

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