Tuesday, October 14, 2008

Results

Bill and Peter are back for their third terms.

Peter Julian destroyed his competition with a strong showing by the Conservative Sam Rakhra and a disappointing finish from Liberal Gerry Lenoski, which was typical of the region.

Bill Siksay had a closer battle against Conservative Ronald Leung. Bill Cunningham finished a disappointing third.

The NDP is stronger in Ontario and did not make the progress that was expected in B.C. Perhaps if Jack Layton leaves, one of the Burnaby MPs may take a run in a race that would likely feature Thomas Mulcair, Peter Stoffer and Joe Comartin.

22 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Surprising to see how close the Conservatives came in BD. Still tough sledding for the Conservatives in this riding.
Anyone for redistribution? Western part of the riding does not have a ton in common with the Easter side.

Also incredible how Cunningham bombed out. He definitely should go back to clipping coupons.

10/15/2008 12:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will be interesting to see how quickly the Municipal signs take to pop up.

10/15/2008 12:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Surprising to see how close the Conservatives came in BD. Still tough sledding for the Conservatives in this riding. "

Surprised? Great. That should teach you a lesson.

At least it was not a surprise for quite a few, including our master blogger. Dr. Leung was very very close, and the anti-NDP factions were that close from unseating Bill Siksay. These NDP councilors will have to take the next election a lot more seriously. Dr. Leung had an unfortunate campaign team who mostly cruised, and the grassroot was almost successful in electing him just by itself.

10/15/2008 6:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, the Liberals sure took a drubbing in BBy-NW. Even their candidate in Van-East fared better against the invinceable Libby Davies than Gerry Lenoski. Just think, the lpcbc backroomers moved heaven and earth to get this guy the nomination. Six other would be candidates were discouraged from running to reserve the nomination for Gerry. What a joke!

10/15/2008 6:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"At least it was not a surprise for quite a few, including our master blogger. Dr. Leung was very very close, and the anti-NDP factions were that close from unseating Bill Siksay. "

YThe fact remains that Leung lost,
and it was really funny early in this blog that a few wanted the so-called "anti-NDP" factions to merge together to elect Bill Cunningham, not Leung.


These NDP councilors will have to take the next election a lot more seriously.

Why? The NDP is returning to its usual self. There are two wins in Burnaby not one or none.

"Dr. Leung had an unfortunate campaign team who mostly cruised, and the grassroot was almost successful in electing him just by itself."

Happens in a few campaigns, the so called power boys are a waste of time.

Now then, what did YOU do to help get Leung elected. Write into a blog?

10/15/2008 9:24 AM  
Anonymous Incredulous said...

An NDP leadership race????

Gosh Robert Burnaby, with an attitude like that, it would appear that you have embraced the joys of marijuana smoking again. Maybe something did change last night.

However, an NDP leadership race will not happen until well after the next Liberal leadership race.

But with one caveat ...

If the Tory minority survives longer than two years, the knives will then come out for the NDP Prime-Minister-in-Waiting.

So ... the Liberals would be well advised to get their bloodletting underway immediately.

And Peter Julian will have to wait until 2015 before he becomes the next NDP leader.

10/15/2008 11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An NDP leadership race????

Gosh Robert Burnaby, with an attitude like that, it would appear that you have embraced the joys of marijuana smoking again. Maybe something did change last night.

Certainly not his alleged "smoking".

There would not be any NDP leadership race since many NDPers are happy with Jack Layton.



However, an NDP leadership race will not happen until well after the next Liberal leadership race.

But with one caveat ...

If the Tory minority survives longer than two years, the knives will then come out for the NDP Prime-Minister-in-Waiting.

Not nessesarily. The NDP if they did hold one will have a moderate
leader somewhat like Jack Layton.


So ... the Liberals would be well advised to get their bloodletting underway immediately.

No worries there, it's most likely already started.

Look for Justin Trudeau to be either kingmaker or run himself.

Iggy and Rae will most likey be starting their campaigns in a few weeks (mostly not seen publicly).

And Peter Julian will have to wait until 2015 before he becomes the next NDP leader.

Peter Julian wouldn't become leader until he shows better statesmanship.

He will be part of the power broking though.

10/15/2008 12:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And on with the civic campaign.

Dan Johnson goes.
Lee Rankin finishes below first.
Evans and Begin squeak in.
And the Asian barrier is broken.

That was easy.

10/16/2008 10:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Considering that several of those points are wrong.

Try again.

10/16/2008 10:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Are wrong"???
That sounds tense.

And bee specificical!

10/16/2008 12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dan Johnson stays.


Figure the rest for yourself.

And why is there a so-called "barrier" in regards to Asians?

People should elect on talent and service rather than if they are
vanilla, chocolate or banana.

10/16/2008 8:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And on with the civic campaign.

Dan Johnson goes.
Lee Rankin finishes below first.
Evans and Begin squeak in.
And the Asian barrier is broken.

That was easy."


I know Dr. Leung didnt win. But while I was wrong by 1%, should he be elected, whoever he decides to back in the municipal race will be elected. But even if he didnt, I still see BCA incumbents not all re-elected.

HOWEVER, the more interesting trend is where the anti-NDP votes are trending towards. I suspect IV elders will finally politically assassinate Lee Rankin. The BCA councilor that I believe is on the verge of elimination is Colleen Jordan who was rather dragged into the council simply as a "yes" vote. So anti-NDP votes I believe will concentrate to push Garth back to the council, not so much for Gary though who practically chaired as NDP.

But I echo someone's opinion that Asian councilors will be elected. I suspect the ethnic votes however will flow toward the two Taiwanese Canadian candidates on BCA slate. My hope is that the new BCA members this time around will actually have balls to vote against the Mayor who is far from perfect.

10/16/2008 10:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" know Dr. Leung didnt win. But while I was wrong by 1%, should he be elected, whoever he decides to back in the municipal race will be elected. But even if he didnt, I still see BCA incumbents not all re-elected. "

Good grief, you never stop do you?

Face facts, kid. Leung lost. Doesn't matter by how much. NDPers have won by 500 votes or less in
provincial elections.


Leung isn't that big of a factor
in who gets re-elected.

It's also not rocket science that not all BCA will be re-elected. But we could still end up with the same matrix of councillors as we did before.




HOWEVER, the more interesting trend is where the anti-NDP votes are trending towards. I suspect IV elders will finally politically assassinate Lee Rankin.

yeah so?


The BCA councilor that I believe is on the verge of elimination is Colleen Jordan who was rather dragged into the council simply as a "yes" vote. So anti-NDP votes I believe will concentrate to push Garth back to the council, not so much for Gary though who practically chaired as NDP.

Good grief, you're way off base there. Begin has never been a part of the NDP.


But I echo someone's opinion that Asian councilors will be elected. I suspect the ethnic votes however will flow toward the two Taiwanese Canadian candidates on BCA slate.

Why would that be? As opposed to let's say Raymond Leung who is originally from HK?

and why the focus on Asian coincilors?

It seems to me it would be better to elect someone on the basis of their committments and talents in serving Burnaby rather than being
a sample of the ethnic community.

Afer all we are all Burnaby citizens no matter if we are white brown, or yellow.


My hope is that the new BCA members this time around will actually have balls to vote against the Mayor who is far from perfect.

Why to elect someone who has never served on council to be Mayor? Granted it has happened many times in the past, by Chisholm just doesn't have it. He's new unproven, and represents a civic party that is a real mess.

10/16/2008 11:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leung appears to have connected well with the Asian portion of BD but what appears is that he ignored the non-Asian contingent of his base assuming they would vote Conservative anyways which doesn't seem to be what happened.
If he would have spent some time appealing to them he might have won.
Lesson for next time.

10/16/2008 11:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leung didn't connect with anybody, period. BD was the setting for three abysmal campaigns. Siksay assumed (correctly) that he could just sit on his laurels and win. Cunningham assumed (incorrectly) that bringing in star power would awe voters into putting him into office. Leung assumed (somewhat correctly) that the Chinese portion would recognize him on a name basis and that would be enough to push him over the top. For all the mentioning of how Leung ignored the non-Asian Conservative base, there is little said of how he ran a weak campaign all-around. He didn't court the Chinese vote so much as he sat around and waited for the Chinese vote.

10/17/2008 12:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well it looks like Leung got the Chinese vote that he assumed.

As for Siksay he won by the skin on his laurels.

10/17/2008 1:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for Siksay he won by the skin on his laurels

Partially wrong.

a 900 vote seperation isn't by the skin on his laurels.

If it was less than 500, then your statement would be 85% true.

There should be an end to this compartmentalising of votes. Seems that it's getting to be too much
"vote for him because he is one of us", despite a real look at who the candidate is, and what he stands for.

Seems that the battles and mentalities from the parent country are repeated here.

10/17/2008 6:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There should be an end to this compartmentalising of votes. Seems that it's getting to be too much
"vote for him because he is one of us", despite a real look at who the candidate is, and what he stands for."

He IS one of us, that is why he belongs to Stephen Harper's party which has now formed the government. What he stands for does matter. Dr. Leung's popularity was due to the media career he had in his past life and the doctoral degree that he has outshine the rest of the field. An incompetent campaigning team is to blame. But it was not a landslide loss, just look at Bill Cunningham's whose supposedly presided over BC Chapter of Government and ran its elections during Martin years. To consolidate anti-NDP votes in such an effective fashion requires something extra. When prominent figures like Richard Lee deciding to stand behind Ronald Leung, then yes, the days of NDP dominance in the city should soon be numbered.

10/18/2008 10:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He IS one of us, that is why he belongs to Stephen Harper's party which has now formed the government. What he stands for does matter. Dr. Leung's popularity was due to the media career he had in his past life and the doctoral degree that he has outshine the rest of the field. An incompetent campaigning team is to blame.

Not exactly true. Leung was popular amongst the Asian community one can assume, but hardly recognisable with English Canadians.



But it was not a landslide loss, just look at Bill Cunningham's whose supposedly presided over BC Chapter of Government and ran its elections during Martin years. To consolidate anti-NDP votes in such an effective fashion requires something extra. When prominent figures like Richard Lee deciding to stand behind Ronald Leung, then yes, the days of NDP dominance in the city should soon be numbered.

Great. Another silly supposition.

The opposite will mostly happen, the NDP will still be a major player in Burnaby.

10/18/2008 10:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Not exactly true. Leung was popular amongst the Asian community one can assume, but hardly recognisable with English Canadians."

It is simple to assume so, since he is the only candidate that can speak in Asian tongues. But to say that English folks DO NOT vote for the Stephen Harper's surrogate is ridiculous. Harper gained in Ontario. The national trend is not to be blamed.

Dr. Leung and a very incompetent team, Period.

Bill Siksay should feel more than grateful rather than "blaming" closeness of the race entirely on the Asian community. If NDP supporters continue to shapelessly claim supremacy over teh riding, then their days are very much numbered.

10/18/2008 11:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody see this article in the Burnaby NOW?


http://communities.canada.com/vannet/blogs/commcons/archive/2008/10/19/blaming-the-media-right-left-or-wrong.aspx#comments

10/19/2008 8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical commentary.

One side "blames the media" while the other says to "take it".

Good example:

Bill VanderZalm complained about media bias, while Mike Harcourt (NDP leader) kept going on that VanderZalm has nothing to complain about.

After 1991, Harcourt ended up being Premier, and yep, he started blaming the media for negative commentary regarding his government's policies and actions.

The media will only respond to what it sees.

Basic fundamental in politics.


The article about the Corrigans had nothing to do with the NDP. It had more to do with both are very much active politicially.

The same types of articles kept coming up when Bill VanderZalm was
Premier. The "Bill and Lil" articles got nauseating after a bit of time.

Also worth noting that Gordon Campbell enjoys the media when they write good things about his government.

He hates the media when they write
bad things about his government.

(Ever notice those silly Open Cabinet Meetings are not held anymore?)

10/19/2008 9:05 PM  

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