There they go
Bill Cunningham, Ronald Leung, and Stephen Harper (no, not that one) are out and running to get Bill Siksay's job.
Sam Rakhra and Carrie-Ann McLaren will soon be joined by Gerry Lenoski in their chase for Peter Julian's job. The Liberals acclaim Lenoski tomorrow night.
There is no word yet about any other candidates in either Burnaby constituency.
Sam Rakhra and Carrie-Ann McLaren will soon be joined by Gerry Lenoski in their chase for Peter Julian's job. The Liberals acclaim Lenoski tomorrow night.
There is no word yet about any other candidates in either Burnaby constituency.
posted by Robert Burnaby at 6:13 PM
26 Comments:
Ronald Leung (not related to the idiot Raymond Leung of Team Burnaby infamousity) hasn't been officially declared yet.
But expect Siskay to win again.
Cunningham was on CKNW this afternoon and gave a weak observation regarding the election.
Doesnt matter. Dr. Ronald Leung will be acclaimed and I will personally see him unseat Bill Siksay. But let us be honest here, Peter Julian is not going away.
Funny that the minority candidates are now coming out conservatives. If that is not a sign as to how the immigrant votes will shift, I do not know what is. I expect the immigrant community to switch from liberals who are parachuting candidates detached from. They along with those liberals going tory just to oppose NDP in the city will put Ronald Leung over the top and unseat Bill Siksay thus NDP activists will be fully surprised and put into a state of panic.
I predict a win for Dr. Ronald Leung in the north and Peter Julian to cling onto his seat for another term.
Doesnt matter. Dr. Ronald Leung will be acclaimed and I will personally see him unseat Bill Siksay. But let us be honest here, Peter Julian is not going away.
Neither is Bill Siskay. He'll be returned for another term.
Funny that the minority candidates are now coming out conservatives.
So what's wrong with that? Are you dumb enough to think the federal Liberals are the only domain for minority candidates? Get real.
If that is not a sign as to how the immigrant votes will shift, I do not know what is. I expect the immigrant community to switch from liberals who are parachuting candidates detached from.
Stupid observation. Perpetuated by the federal Liberals who started this multicultural aspect of Canada. While it is good, they left out one thing. "Vote how you wish. Not nessesarily for us".
They along with those liberals going tory just to oppose NDP in the city will put Ronald Leung over the top and unseat Bill Siksay thus NDP activists will be fully surprised and put into a state of panic.
Think the only people who will be in a panic are those federal Liberals and Conservatives who think Siskay is going to get defeated.
It's difficult to unseat an incumbent and there are simply not enough Chinese people in that riding to put Ronald over the top.
I predict a win for Dr. Ronald Leung in the north and Peter Julian to cling onto his seat for another term.
You're wrong on one and right on the other.
Look for the two NDP MP's to return to Parliament in 40 days.
"Perpetuated by the federal Liberals who started this multicultural aspect of Canada. While it is good, they left out one thing. "Vote how you wish. Not nessesarily for us."
You are too naive, the Chinese are only part of the voters that will help put Dr. Ronald Leung unseat Bill Siksay. Part of his riding already has a Chinese Canadian MLA and BCLIB has not Chinese Canadian MLA in Vancouver proper. The Chinese community and East Indian community will now shift in the city and that alone will cut NDP's lead in half. Add that to the fact that there will be federal liberals/BCLIB supporters that voted against NDP in 05/06 who will be voting AGAINST the carbon tax/Stephane Dion in 2008. Once you put in the Green Party's Stephen Harper factor, there simply is not enough union support in the region to re-elect Bill Siksay. That is unliek provincial riding Burnaby Edmonds which falls in Peter Julian's riding. And once this so called "giant slaying" of Svend Robinson's successor, that will immediately put NDP into a state of panic and essentially both BCLIB incumbent MLA's re-election. It will be a tough loss for NDP to swallow.
You are too naive, the Chinese are only part of the voters that will help put Dr. Ronald Leung unseat Bill Siksay.
Guess we can factor in anyone who puts the "x"next to Leung's name, be it Armenian, Italian, Indo Cdn.
German, etc. et.c
But news for ya, those same kinds of people also vote NDP.
"Part of his riding already has a Chinese Canadian MLA and BCLIB has not Chinese Canadian MLA in Vancouver proper."
Yeah so? Richard was never faced with a contestant for the nomination in that riding. In short, he was the only one who ran there. Look beyond what he is, and look towards who he is inside.
"The Chinese community and East Indian community will now shift in the city and that alone will cut NDP's lead in half."
Not nessesarily.
Add that to the fact that there will be federal liberals/BCLIB supporters that voted against NDP in 05/06 who will be voting AGAINST the carbon tax/Stephane Dion in 2008.
Will they be voting against the Gordon Campbell carbon tax in 2009?
Once you put in the Green Party's Stephen Harper factor, there simply is not enough union support in the region to re-elect Bill Siksay.
Siskay doesn't rely exclusively on union support. In other words his support base is not 100% union membership, although he does get benifit from union members who are NDPers volunteering for his campaign and voting for him.
That is unliek provincial riding Burnaby Edmonds which falls in Peter Julian's riding. And once this so called "giant slaying" of Svend Robinson's successor, that will immediately put NDP into a state of panic and essentially both BCLIB incumbent MLA's re-election.
You're thinking beyond your own political limitations.
It will be a tough loss for NDP to swallow.
It will apparently be a tough loss for you to swallow if Siskay is re-elected.
It will be hard for the Conservatives to win in BD.
They have to hope for a total Liberal meltdown and for the Greens to take a bunch of NDP votes away.
If I was the Cons I would be helping out the Greens as much as possible.
BS must have nightmares about them Greens.
"It will apparently be a tough loss for you to swallow if Siskay is re-elected."
No it wont since the burden to prove himself as worthy of re-election lies on Bill Siksay. The voters are not obligated to vote for any NDP incumbent. There will always be some core NDP supporters that believe in the illusion that Burnaby is going to be dominated by NDP in perpetuity, but we voters like to think otherwise. The shift in votes away from Bill Cunningham will finally put Burnaby Douglas under the government and elect Burnaby's first ever Chinese Canadian MP as they did to Richard Lee. The victory of Dr. Ronald Leung, as I said, will upset these NDP supporters, and unfortunately who will have an extremely hard time explaining to themselves of the result.
"It will be hard for the Conservatives to win in BD.
They have to hope for a total Liberal meltdown and for the Greens to take a bunch of NDP votes away.
If I was the Cons I would be helping out the Greens as much as possible.
BS must have nightmares about them Greens."
I have already said the influence of greens on BS. And yes you are right, there are plenty of reasons for conservatives to help Stephen Harper get elected, no bad pun intended.
As for the liberal meltdown, combining the fact that Bill Cunningham loses twice, UNDER THE GOVERNMENT PARTY, and Stephane Dion (carbon tax anyone?). There no need to say more about it.
The poll is pointing to a loss for NDP not only in this riding, they will also lose New West-Coqitlam and Surrey North. But that's beside the point, Dr. Ronald Leung will defeat another NDP incumbent and it will be hard for NDP to overturn the opinion poll.
"Dr. Ronald Leung will be acclaimed and I will personally see him unseat Bill Siksay."
Sorry Buddy. A decision was made several levels above your pay grade to make sure Ronald Leung is the candidate. There was only going to be an acclamation if all other parties could be dissuaded from contesting the nomination. Unfortunately, some rude democtratic individual also wanted the nomination. Look for Ronald to be appointed tomorrow and the nomination process to be cancelled. That's the way it goes when the fix is in.
A far better question might be why Ronald Leung has been the invisible candidate in Burnaby Douglas for the past year. No outreach to try to connect with the community like Bill Cunningham. Leung has very little knowledge of the riding - for example could he name the high schools in the riding and even half the elementary schools? Nor has he ever shown any interest in Burnaby before this election. His interests always lay in vancouver.
There seems to be a sense that he will win because he is chinese. Canada doesn't work that way.
"Sorry Buddy. A decision was made several levels above your pay grade to make sure Ronald Leung is the candidate. There was only going to be an acclamation if all other parties could be dissuaded from contesting the nomination. Unfortunately, some rude democtratic individual also wanted the nomination. Look for Ronald to be appointed tomorrow and the nomination process to be cancelled. That's the way it goes when the fix is in."
Right. Luckily, Joyce Murray was able to name UBC before she purchased her first home in the riding she was elected. But that is beside the point.
How is Dr. Ronald Leung's nomination any less democratic than the NDP. Just because no one decides to challenge for the nomination does not make it undemocratic. No one is being hi-jacked by certain special interest groups to win the nomination, Dr. Ronald Leung is there because he profoundly believes that he IS GOING TO DEFEAT Bill Siksay. And I think we have moved beyond the Chinese Canadian argument by now, my friend. There are already quite a few Chinese Canadian across BC running for tories and Dr. Leung is only one of them. It is simply a sign that the immigrant community in Burnaby have now chosen the tories to oppose NDP.
Where does his interest lie? His interests align with most of the Canadians. Is it not in his interest to see Canadian economy continue its course? Is it not in his interest to see Canadians safe? If that is his interest and he wants to win, who am I to say that he should not. With national poll suggesting a widespread victory from coast to coast, Dr. Ronald Leung will unseat Bill Siksay, as tough for NDP as it may be.
Sorry Buddy. A decision was made several levels above your pay grade to make sure Ronald Leung is the candidate.
Sounds like a bit of a power play to me, and since when does "pay grade" factor in? If it did, you'd be several levels below mine.
"There was only going to be an acclamation if all other parties could be dissuaded from contesting the nomination."
Sure.
Unfortunately, some rude democtratic individual also wanted the nomination.
What's wrong with that? Unless of course it happens within the federal Liberals. Everyone knows the federal Liberals conviently
bring in their own. Bill Cunningham has been the benificiary of that.
Look for Ronald to be appointed tomorrow and the nomination process to be cancelled. That's the way it goes when the fix is in."
Sure. Should have been done months ago, but I suppose they wanted Ronald to keep working the Regional Office of the Cabient in his role as the Chinese Community spokesperson for the Conservatives.
Right. Luckily, Joyce Murray was able to name UBC before she purchased her first home in the riding she was elected. But that is beside the point.
How is Dr. Ronald Leung's nomination any less democratic than the NDP. Just because no one decides to challenge for the nomination does not make it undemocratic.
What if someone did want to contest for it but was denied in favour of a favored candidate instead? That seems to have happened here.
"No one is being hi-jacked by certain special interest groups to win the nomination, Dr. Ronald Leung is there because he profoundly believes that he IS GOING TO DEFEAT Bill Siksay."
What happens if he does not?
And I think we have moved beyond the Chinese Canadian argument by now, my friend. There are already quite a few Chinese Canadian across BC running for tories and Dr. Leung is only one of them. It is simply a sign that the immigrant community in Burnaby have now chosen the tories to oppose NDP.
True, but the NDP also taps into the immigrant community as well.
This going into these various "communities" is getting a bit much. We're all Canadians, aren't we?
Where does his interest lie? His interests align with most of the Canadians. Is it not in his interest to see Canadian economy continue its course?
Especially on how it affects his own personal economy..
Is it not in his interest to see Canadians safe? If that is his interest and he wants to win, who am I to say that he should not. With national poll suggesting a widespread victory from coast to coast, Dr. Ronald Leung will unseat Bill Siksay, as tough for NDP as it may be.
Don't be too sure about that.
Incumbents are difficult to defeat and Siskay has been MP for two terms.
It will be the voters overall, not any one specific community that will decide who the MP is.
The Tories will appoint Leung???
Isn't this the guy who told Gary Begin, a 25-year elected official with more community volunteerism on his resume than almost anyone else in this city, to "Get in line, or get out"?
Gary wisely got out. As will other long-term Tories.
The Conservatives will return to their historical standing in north Burnaby - third place. No question!
If the national polls show the Liberals moving up five points in this election, there might even be a surprise.
I predict someone named Bill will win Douglas.
"The Conservatives will return to their historical standing....I predict someone named Bill will win Douglas....."
Shows how much you know about politics. And no, Dr. Leung is different from Chariman Leung. One can win, the other cant. And there is certain no poitn trying to explain to delusionals why Bill Cunningham cant get elected twice running as Prime Minister Paul Martin's candidate. But hey, who am I to say Dion liberals are not delusional.
The point coming back is this will be a bid to unseat Bill Siksay and this will be a battleground as the national media has predicted. This election will be Dr. Ronald Leung's to lose and this loss will be difficult for NDP to swallow.
Thank you for clarifying the earlier question of the Leungs. The name calling was an added bonus. You must really love politics.
The battleground in Burnaby Douglas is between the two Bills. The Tories are stronger elsewhere, like Surrey Whalley where Dona Cadman will win.
Dr. Ronald Leung's to lose and this loss will be difficult for NDP to swallow."
Might also be that the loss of Leung to Siskay will be far more
difficult for the Leung supporters to swallow.
and no it is not a question of the riding being Leung's to lose. He has no foundation politically specifically within Douglas.
It is for Siskay to lose, and you can bet your ass that the NDP will be doing everything they can to save Siskay's ass ("keep his seat" if you will).
The winning issues in Burnaby are:
(choose one)
a - name calling
b - ducking questions
c - scaring people, or
d - everything Tory?
And that was a terrific media event this morning, Mr Harper. What exactly did you announce? (Does nothing come with tax cuts, too?)
Apparently nothing does come with tax cuts. Ask Stephane Dion or Jack Layton.
"Apparently nothing does come with tax cuts. Ask Stephane Dion or Jack Layton."
Quite true.
Bill Cunningham's votes decrease and it is obvious.
Former Paul Martin supporters will shift to Dr. Leung and it cant be more obvious, especially those voting against carbon tax.
Bill Siksay's seat is far from safe and there will only be few liberals who will support Bill Cunningham all the way to the end since this will be his last fight in a very long time.
This IS a battleground. I thought we already had a consensus on Bill C's chance, as young and talented as he may be. The liberals will not be able to stop the national trend. Bill Siksay will fall and Dr. Leung will finally bring Burnaby North its first ever government MP/cabinet minister in a very long time.
The only real consenus is that Bill The C will lose. There's not much talent politically that he has that others don't have.
As for Siskay, he won't fall. He'll win.
Even if Leung does win, it's not guaranteed that he will get a cabinet post. There's too many Conservatives out there (including Ed Fast) who are more deserving.
Peter Julian shouldn't start planning his victory party just yet. The Fiberals have just done Sam Rakhra a big favour by nominating a candidate that makes Blair Wilson look like an upright businessman. Now all Sam Rakhra's supporters have to do is Google the name Gerard or Gerry Lenoski and some of the companies he has been involved with like AMS Homecare, Adriana Resources, Asia Electrical Power Industries Group, Fab Form Industries, Hybrook Resources Group, Pyng Medical Corp or Severide Environmental Industries and they'll have enough ammo to sink the Liberal ship making Bby-NW a two party race. It is amazing how many of Lenoski's companies have either:
(a)been delisted or suspended by the stock market they were listed on
(b)gone through numerous name changes and ticker symbol changes
(c)lost more than half of their initial share price
(d)come to a mutual agreement with Gerard Lenoski that he should resign from their company
Maybe that's why the Liberals waited until the last minute to parachute in Lenoski. They wanted to give his opponents as little time as possible to dig into Gerry's past business dealings.
Are the Lenoski claims true?
Or are they just another example of deliberately false information being spread over the internet?
Probably false information. The NDPers are obviously testing again.
And if this guy is in fact a parachuted candidate (does not live in the riding), where is our resident idiot who keeps screeching
in a high pitched voice that Kathy Corrigan doesn't live in Bby Deer Lake (the riding she wants to run in?)
Cna't have it both ways folks. If Corrigan is accused of not living in the riding where she runs, then the same thing applies to Lenoski.
"Are the Lenoski claims true?"
The claims by anonymous 10:22 are based on information that is posted on the internet on websites run by the TSX-Venture Exchange, the Security Exchange Commission, as well as assortment of business/investment oriented webpages. To view this information, just type the name Gerard Lenoski and one of the companies he has been associated with into the Google search engine. For example a search of AMS Homecare, a company that lists Gerard Lenoski on its Board of Directors will lead to a page posted by the TSX Venture Exchange detailing the companies history. It will reveat that this company has been delisted 7 times, and changed its name and ticker symbol 5 times, It started out as a gold exploration company called Jacob Gold Corp(JGC), metamorphesized into Middle Eastern Oil exploration company first called Sargon Resources Ltd(SAR) then Intl Sargon Resources(IAO), then it became a Canadian oil exploration company called Canoil(CNP). I guess they didn't find any oil or gold, because their next step was to become a medical equipment manufacturer and distributer called AMS Homecare(AHC) Further research reveals that AMS Homecare was subject to several lawsuits and had trading of its shares was suspended by the TSX Venture exchange in 2006. Nor is it Gerry's only company to be suspended. An auto parts/software publishing company called Severide Environmental Industries, which listes Gerard Lenoski as its "Secretary of the Board" had trading of its shares suspended by the now defunct VSE. A google search into the name Gerald Lenoski(not Gerard but same address) and the company Asia Electrical Power International Group, Gerry Lenoski's most recent venture, will lead you to Securities Exchanges Commission document prepared by Mr Lenoski and his company Equicom Management Corp pertaining to the Asia Electrical Power's IPO. The document reveals that this China based manyfacturer of electrical switching mechanism does not own patents for the the products it is manufacturing nor has has any insurance in case it is faced with a lawsuit. Sounds like a great place to invest your money.
One thing extensive internet searching of Gerry Lenoski's business involvement has failed to turn up is any evidence that he has ever involved with a company that actually made its shareholders money! The recurring theme is that of one fly-by-night operation after another that changes its name, focus of business and stock market ticker symbol every few years.
But more imporantly, why did the federal Liberals not find a better candidate, and didn't he try for the nomination before?
The other curious thing was that the registation period according to the notice of meeting was only 15 minutes long.
"why did the federal Liberals not find a better candidate?"
According to the Elections Canada website, www.election.ca Joyce Murray still owes Gerry Lenoski $6400 from her 2006 campaign in New Westminster Coquitlam. Supposedly Mr. Lenoski also rents his New Westminster apartment from Joyce Murray's in-laws. Also, the chair of the Liberal Green Light comittee, Lawyer Dean Crawford, who approved Lenoski's candidacy but rejected two other Chinese candidates who were interested in running in South Burnaby was a member of Joyce Murray's 2007-8 Vancouver Quadra constituency executive. Can you connect the dots?
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