Peter got his wish
CTV is reporting that David Emerson will not seek a third term in Parliament.
Emerson's main Burnaby connection was through Peter Julian who was the NDP critic of many of his original Conservative portfolios of international trade, Gateway and the Olympics. Julian was also not afraid to criticize the floor crossing minister.
Emerson's main Burnaby connection was through Peter Julian who was the NDP critic of many of his original Conservative portfolios of international trade, Gateway and the Olympics. Julian was also not afraid to criticize the floor crossing minister.
posted by Robert Burnaby at 9:13 PM
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Hardly a case of Emmerson not seeking a third term because of Julian.
Julian hasn't done anything useful except be a critic. Anyone can be a critic, it's alot easier than actually doing things.
If anyone figures Julian had a factor in Emmerson's not seeking a third term, they are really a fool.
Emmerson doesn't need to seek a third term. He's accomplished alot more in two years than Julian ever would in 10.
David should actually run in Quadra. If he ran there and as a current Federal Liberal, I would vote for him whether he was Green, NDP, or a Conservartive over Joyce Murray anytime.
I'm not sure how an NDP'er is a "connection"-more like a waste of taxpayers money. What I cannot understand is why the smart intelligent and hardworking people in Burnaby seem to want to torture themselves with the same poorly prepared, old-style union and NDP tactics when they could have easily referred to far greater persons to hold this office. Its embarrassing...
PS- robert burnaby if you're going to establish yourself as a political blog-ster then you need to atleast understand the difference between a political connection and a competitor.
You're absolutely right-David would be tremendous in Quadra but I am having a hard time envisioning the executive members and the Fed Lib president loving that idea.
David Emerson likely has decided against running for re-election the day he crossed the floor. I agree that David Emerson should have run somewhere else, and I was also hoping he would run in Quadra. But he is not running, so enough about him.
We are only two ridings apart and yet the difference seems worlds apart. If you ask me, Peter Julian criticizing international trade against David Emerson is simply too funny to be commented on. He was awarded the portfolio to secure the NDP activists and deliver Burnaby. Same goes for our neighboring MP Libby Davies.
I certainly do not think the tory candidate has enough support behind him to take on NDP party machine and liberals never had a chance from the very beginning. I would suggest the liberals NOT NOMINATE a candidate otherwise they will be instrumental in getting Peter Julian re-elected.
Ain't going to happen, the Liberals are nominating in about 5 days.
and wasn't some idiot in here wanting Julian to be the Liberal candidate??
Thanks for this fantastic new information, Robert Burnaby!
And I always thought that Emerson's best Burnaby connection was his friend, confidant and one-time top staffer BIll Cunningham, who just happens to be a Liberal candidate in this city.
"And I always thought that Emerson's best Burnaby connection was his friend, confidant and one-time top staffer BIll Cunningham"
Oh phuleez. Bill was just a dusty old political hack in the BC office of the federal Liberals.
Anyone who knows basic issues and
has been through two campaigns can do the job that Cunnigham did.
Seems that some idiot wants to give Billy Boy more public awareness at the expense of Emmerson.
Speaking of Peter Julian's riding of Burnaby New Westminster, the Federal Liberals are finally going to unveil the star candidate they've been reserving the nomination for almost two years now. The Liberal candidate nomination meeting is set for Monday September 8th 2008 at 7pm at 6550 Bonsor Avenue. Now we get to see if there is any truth to those rumours of David Orchard running against Peter Julian.
What star candidate? There isn't
much talent out there, and they haven't been 'reserving' the nomination for two years. Two people left.
David Orchard is running Back East,
not here.
As for the nomination, that's not news. It's been out there for at least 10 days.
Better try to catch up with the rest of us, bud.
They haven't been reserving the nomination? Then why did the lpcbc green light committee reject Lily Harvey as a candidate after she had been campaigning for the nomination for 15 months. If they rejected an ethnic female candidate with many of fundraising connections and strong ties to the Chinese business community and the support of Burnaby city councillor Garth Evans, surely they must have someone better waiting in the wings? Patty Sahota perhaps?
They haven't been reserving the nomination? Then why did the lpcbc green light committee reject Lily Harvey as a candidate after she had been campaigning for the nomination for 15 months. If they rejected an ethnic female candidate with many of fundraising connections and strong ties to the Chinese business community and the support of Burnaby city councillor Garth Evans, surely they must have someone better waiting in the wings? Patty Sahota perhaps?
Being a member of the Chinese Business community does not automatically give a nomination to a person.
If Patty Sahota was out there there would be news as she would have been contacting the membership, and through that her nomination run would have been well known.
Would be tough to hide it.
"David Orchard is the Liberal candidate in Desnethé-Missinippi-Churchill River"
Lee Rankin will be running for Burnaby council.
And Lenore Copeland, another old stalwart from the riding, is hoping for Vancouver city council.
Is there any significance to the fact that the Liberal nominating meeting takes place as the gavel strikes for the first city council meeting of the silly season?
Just asking.
But Patty Sahota would be a nice surprise! She has a real following, and can count on the support of riding officials Rana Dhatt and Gurdev Dhillon.
Since she has been so invisible recently, I found the following searches.
Patty is on the Board of Directors for Westminster Savings Credit Union -
https://www.wscu.com/Personal/AboutUs/BoardofDirectors/
The bio also says she is a 'principal' of something called Majority Group Solutions Inc., but Google returns nothing but the WCSU page on that.
Zoom Info - which is notorious for bad information- claims someone of that name is also on the Board of Directors of Burnaby Funeral, and CEO of something called Campeche - not the Mexican state, I assume. Bad info, probably.
And the only telephone listings are not in Burnaby, which is Patty's home, according to WSCU.
Will Patty leave her campaign office door open?
Or will volunteers and visitors have to buzz in 'for security purposes'?
If the Liberals are planning to parachute Patty into Burnaby New-Westminster, she wouldn't have to go around contacting the membership as there would be no nomination race.
So - is Gerry Lenoski still thinking of running?
http://www.publiceyeonline.com/archives/002148.html
He's an old Trudeau Liberal.
(Sort of like Doug Drummond, eh)
If Sahota does run in Bby New West (unlikely) she is in for a rough ride as a parachute candidate.
There's been alot of silly nonsense about Kathy Corrigan not living in Bby Deer Lake, so for any idiot that supports Sahota running in that riding, expect a rough ride about her being a parachute candidate.
But none of that is going to happen because she isn't running.
She wouldnt be running there. If a cabinet post could not save her from Raj, she would will have a hope against Peter Julian.
May I suggest Liberals not run here? If the liberals want to re-elect Peter Julian, they will continue to have no presence in the region, and I am afraid that with a proviincial election so close, federal liberals backed by conservatives in Burnaby and New West also may not survive. I would suggest a pact between the two for both elections in this region.
May I suggest Liberals not run here? If the liberals want to re-elect Peter Julian, they will continue to have no presence in the region, and I am afraid that with a proviincial election so close, federal liberals backed by conservatives in Burnaby and New West also may not survive. I would suggest a pact between the two for both elections in this region.
Ain;t going to happen. The Liberals like the other national party have a party constitution requirement to run candidates in all federal ridings. But as per usual with the federal Liberals, the leader can do what ever he wants.
It would be extremely rare for the federal Liberals to pass on fielding a candidate in this election.
Why would the provincial election which takes place in May 2009 be considered "so close"?
There wouldn't be any 'pact' between the Conservatives and the Liberals. That's dreaming in Tory Blue and Liberal red with allof the other primary colours in between.
"The Liberals like the other national party have a party constitution requirement to run candidates in all federal ridings. But as per usual with the federal Liberals, the leader can do what ever he wants."
You and I both know that liberals are not running in all federal ridings, unless Dion goes back on his word anyway, which is not rare.
There probably wont be, but my suggestion is to have federal liberals John Nuraney and New Westminster's Mayor endorsing Sam in an effort to unseat NDP and in exchange Sam not only help John re-elected, he will also deliver New West and Bur-Ed for BCLIB. Otherwise to endorse a pro-carbon tax MP candidate in this riding could very well be the kiss of death for John Nuraney's own defeat.
There probably wont be, but my suggestion is to have federal liberals John Nuraney and New Westminster's Mayor endorsing Sam in an effort to unseat NDP and in exchange Sam not only help John re-elected, he will also deliver New West and Bur-Ed for BCLIB.
Ain't going to happen. The provincial Liberals are on their own.
Otherwise to endorse a pro-carbon tax MP candidate in this riding could very well be the kiss of death for John Nuraney's own defeat.
John is already there, the BC Liberals already have a carbon tax
and hencewith, John is a pro-carbon tax MLA.
"John is already there, the BC Liberals already have a carbon tax
and hencewith, John is a pro-carbon tax MLA."
You are correct in some respect. However, at least Gordon Campbell's government has the support from conservative members in the legislature. But if John decides to announce his support publicly for the federal candidate, then he will be on his own. Since John is smart and knows where the wind blows, I suggest he take the initiative to bring former liberals into the tory camp, especially if he agrees with Harper's environment policy and tax cuts. He should not worry about the federal liberals in his riding to continue to vote against Kathy Corrigan. And the same goes for federal liberal Wayne Wright who faces a very tough NDP civic party mayoral candidate. I honestly believe there will be enough federal liberals to help defeat NDP if prominent community figures such as Wayne Wright and John Nuraney will take the initiative. And I would say the best move for federal liberals here will be to leave this as an open race between tories and NDP.
You are correct in some respect.
It's being correct on all aspects, since John supported the carbon tax when it went through a vote in
the Legislature. He has written one or two columns in support of it.
"However, at least Gordon Campbell's government has the support from conservative members in the legislature."
That's only because Gordon Campbell
insists on support. I am sure that
a few MLAs do think silently that it was a dumb idea to begin with.
"But if John decides to announce his support publicly for the federal candidate, then he will be on his own. Since John is smart and knows where the wind blows, I suggest he take the initiative to bring former liberals into the tory camp, especially if he agrees with Harper's environment policy and tax cuts."
John is a federal Liberal he's not
interested in the local Tories, except for those who live in his riding and will vote for him.
"He should not worry about the federal liberals in his riding to continue to vote against Kathy Corrigan."
The federal Liberals will be too busy figuring out who to vote for as their next leader by then.
"And the same goes for federal liberal Wayne Wright who faces a very tough NDP civic party mayoral candidate."
So what? If he can get the votes he needs, he wins.
"I honestly believe there will be enough federal liberals to help defeat NDP if prominent community figures such as Wayne Wright and John Nuraney will take the initiative."
and no Tories? The federal Liberals are in nop shape to do very much.
And I would say the best move for federal liberals here will be to leave this as an open race between tories and NDP.
and start thinking of who to replace Dion with.
and while you're at it, get rid of that idiotic part in the federal Liberal constitution that allows the leader to directly appoint candidates, bypassing the democratic right of the membership to decide who the candidate amongst nominees will be.
The federal Liberals are totalitarian (worse than China) in that regard.
Speaking of totalitarianism, ...
http://www.clb.org.hk/en/node/100294
The NDP could learn a few lessons, eh?
The federal Liberals could learn a few lessons in totalitarian rule, so I wouldn't blame the NDP too much until that leader's power of direct appointment of candidates is taken out.
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