Kwantlen, Ignatieff, and Pynenburg's husband
The Kwantlen Student Association was audited and a variety of problems were found, vindicating a campus whistleblower. Well into today's Vancouver Sun article, a Liberal riding president named Jacques Leger is mentioned. Leger, then president of New Westminster-Coquitlam, was a Michael Ignatieff supporter in the 2006 leadership race. Another Ignatieff supporter was Bilal Cheema, who had a bit part in the KSA financial problems. Cheema was asked to help bring Leger in as chief electoral officer for the KSA elections.
All of this is interesting, if not a bit unusual, but where is the Burnaby tie-in? Leger's spouse, Mary Pynenburg, is two-time Burnaby-New Westminster Liberal runner-up to Peter Julian. Last word on Pynenburg was that she was Director of Planning in Kelowna, but that city's website says David Shipclark is the acting director of planning. Could Pynenburg be back to New Westminster for her third kick at the can that is Peter Julian's seat? And what would Lily Harvey, the only declared Liberal in the race, have to say about this?
All of this is interesting, if not a bit unusual, but where is the Burnaby tie-in? Leger's spouse, Mary Pynenburg, is two-time Burnaby-New Westminster Liberal runner-up to Peter Julian. Last word on Pynenburg was that she was Director of Planning in Kelowna, but that city's website says David Shipclark is the acting director of planning. Could Pynenburg be back to New Westminster for her third kick at the can that is Peter Julian's seat? And what would Lily Harvey, the only declared Liberal in the race, have to say about this?
posted by Robert Burnaby at 10:23 AM
27 Comments:
Gawd man, what is with that Bby New Westminster Liberal bunch?
Are they on a slide?
Where's The Ayatollah (Gurdev Dillion) when you need him?
He was president at one time, and was an icon in political circles.
Neither of them is rich and powerful enough to stop donations flowing from the liberal election machine to the tories. But what is the likelihood for any of the party to stop Peter Julian from winning his re-election a the 2nd strongest NDP riding in GVRD next to Libby Davies'.
Burnaby liberals like Lee Rankin or his fellow party members will be better off endorsing tories in both BBY ridings as any city councilor endorsement going to the liberals in either riding will likely be the kiss of death during the nomination phase. And no, Lee Rankin's cakewalk to the mayoral nomination is not guaranteed by any means.
Gawd man...
How did this get from Pynenburg to Rankin?
Ya see?
This is is what happens to a political group when it doesn't have someone like The Ayatollah around to make sure things are done right and kept right.
Simple, Rankin ran as a federal liberal in 2000 and had been staying away from the liberals by appearing to be only interested in local politics and has really no more passion for another losing campaign.
However, as someone who aspired to become the mayor of Burnaby once Corrigan steps down, he has been trying to stay away from the liberal political machine and trying to consolidate the anti-NDP faction with Harry Bloy who is a federal tory. I do not believe anyone expects him to backing liberal candidates any time soon.
One is not so sure about his fellow party members however. Since the next federal election will be somewhere around the civic election, if Gary Begin does decide to back the liberal candidate, even if Harry Bloy allows him to get on the list, how far up on the list of total votes after 08 is another matter.
I would not comment on the NDP civic empire in New West, however, I would also expect the opposition there to drop liberals for tories this time since the vote splitting has helped defeating a 4-term incumbent in the nearby riding. If enough liberal voters decide to vote against NDP, maybe we will finally see a change of color in this riding.
Since the next federal election will be somewhere around the civic election, if Gary Begin does decide to back the liberal candidate, even if Harry Bloy allows him to get on the list, how far up on the list of total votes after 08 is another matter."
Interesting comment. Why would there be a need for Harry Bloy to 'allow' Gary Begin to get on some list?
Isn't that up to the membershipof Gary's civic party to decide if this 'list' is a list of
those offered to the voters as candidates?
and why does Harry's decisions matter at the civic level? Harry is
a provincial MLA isn't he?
Getting back to the original subject, the federal Liberals in Bby New West need Gurdev Dhillon
to get things back on track.
No question.
It looks to me that the above poster believes that BCNDP has no hand in getting Corrigan re-elected. And when is the last time Peter Julian stayed away from civic election.
For some reasons some people believe the only chance against the NDP faction in Burnaby is to replay the old liberal tactics again which never worked in the first place. May I suggest that it is Harry Bloy that put a team of anti-NDP candidates together coming close to a historical victory. One can create stories about the liberals in this riding, but history has repeatedly proven the only to remove NDP incumbency is to consolidate the anti-NDP votes.
While it may make sense to run as a liberal in 2000 against NDP, it simply does not make sense for BCL or TB members to be backing liberals against government and NDP incumbents at a time when ex-liberals have been gunning for tory nominations outside of Burnaby.
I hope more than a few read the article in the weekend Sun about he massive fraud at the KSA. I also hope it was not missed that most names mentioned are involved at the federal Liberal level.
"May I suggest that it is Harry Bloy that put a team of anti-NDP candidates together coming close to a historical victory. One can create stories about the liberals in this riding, but history has repeatedly proven the only to remove NDP incumbency is to consolidate the anti-NDP votes."
Talk about boring. Anti-NDP candidaes and votes.
I'd rather vote for someone who actually has something positive to offer to Burnaby rather than being on a list of an MLA who - from the above - obviously is doing it to
keep some kind of perceived power base.
One yhas to wonder why a civic party has to have a list of candidates hand picked by an MLA rather than letting the membership choose who runs.
But it's your civic party.
I never vote the whole slateroo anyway. I look for a mix of NDPers and others who will do good things for Burnaby.
That's most important.
Far more than the perceived power and influence from a provincial MLA.
Electable candidates will be avoiding the federal Liberal banner like the plague this time around.
Christy and Mark might have to put on their work boots and run as the closest thing to credible candidates the way things are going.
Mark actually put on work boots in a campaign?
Surely you jest.
That means he'll be going out with a sign crew.
Mark wouldn't do that.
But maybe there's hope for one of them.
They go to Harry Bloy on bended knee and plead for one of them to be on The List of the Chosen for Harry's civic 'party'.
With a tap on both shoulders they could with Harry's blessing salvage their political careers.
I'm pretty sure Gary Begin was the only TEAM member who whole heartedly endorsed a federal Liberal in either of the last two federal elections. He endorsed Mary Pynenburg's nomination against Lee Rankin in '04 and he was on her website endorsement list again last year. I think he knows Mary and her husband Jacques Leger quite well. However I doubt Gary would condone any of the KSA stuff that has Jacque's name mentiuoned these days. They're just all good friends and federal Liberals, that's all.
Well, having Mary and Billy running 3rd time in a row will certainly help liberals cut down expenses. They have lost twice running with the government against NDP incumbents. Most of the electable candidates in Burnaby will as mentioned stay away from federal liberals as they at least have realistic expectations as to which elections they want to win.
Will Patty Sahota join the race instead of running for the mayoral seat which she would have greater chance uniting the anti-NDP votes? Will federal liberals rather face Raj in 09, effectively a backbencher, or face Peter in 08. With Gary Begin already so popular within federal liberals, maybe Harry Bloy should convince him to step down from re-election and stand in as a likely unopposed MLA candidate against Raj. Otherwise, having someone who backs federal liberals in TB may create unnecessary annoyance against Corrigan & Co.
Harry Bloy, Patty Sahota.
Harry's power plays and the concept that Patty is a best choice for Mayor because Harry wants her to run.
Same old same old.
Doesn't anything interesting or new happen in Burnaby?
Anything interesting? Well, since the topic was about federal liberal party MP nomination, the whole thing was doomed from beginning.
The government party candidate nomination meeting however will be much more interesting. We can all admit that LPC candidates are no fun at all.
Bill Siksay's tory opponent will be highly profiled and comparing to the incumbent who is never an orator in the first place. It will be dependent on how well they can make Bill Siksay look as if he is an opposition MP and however his private will be viewed by the voting public will not even begin to matter. If the tory candidate can make himself/herself look as if he/she belongs in the government, then I definitely think tories can take back this riding, previously held by Svend Robinson, shocking Canadians.
Peter Julian's riding is more tricky. Tory nomination has always been crowded, and the nomination's front runner (runner-up in 04/06)is already having his share of bad press and that has shortened the lead he has on others. Without an establishment favourite, it was supposed to be his nomination to take and be the poster son for tories. But someone is coming from behind and is really working through the party ranks and is looking likely to unite the base that forced the runner-up out. Even though his dad may be in the cabinet, I do not believe he received any special favor except that will probably scare off a few people. This is shaping up to be an interesting race unlike the liberal nomination race.
Nice to see that this thread is back to the Bby New West riding.
Harry Bloy's adventures in his quest to be Burnaby's power boy is getting boring.
Nothing new there, everyone knows about that. Old news.
"Harry Bloy's adventures ... his....."
Thank you previous poster! It was getting boring. Is it even true?
Is it even true that Mary Pynenburg is contemplating running again? I doubt it.
Harry Bloy a Power Broker? Huh?
The closest thing he has been to a power broker is when he used to sell Power Bars at Macs.
Doubt Mary would try again.
She's run twice in a row and bombed.
Kinda hard to beat an incumbent MP even though that MP doesn't do much except obtain publicity.
The Liberals should try for someone better.
A well known local person who has the determination to win and end up being an MP of a party of Opposition.
"The closest thing he has been to a power broker is when he used to sell Power Bars at Macs."
Figures.
Harry sold Power Bars, and now he's Power Sauce in Burnaby.
"A well known local person who has the determination to win and end up being an MP of a party of Opposition."
Someone who would do anything to win a seat in the opposition bench? Just like Peter Julian? Why are we still staying on the topic of who should run for the liberals, I thought no one is interested.
What about having the anti-NDP faction of Burnaby consolidating its support behind the government party. If Ryan Warawa does win tory candidacy against Peter Julian, and shall he win, he will be serving with his dad in Ottawa who is already serving in the cabinet. Is this strong a reason for anti-NDP consolidation? For TB/BCL prospects, John Nuraney and Lee Rankin particularly, guess who would beneift the most from a tory win?
My suggestion? Some of these former liberals should start contemplating siding with the government against NDP in this election. Their support for the government will also not be forgotten considering removing the most prominent NDPer in Burnaby will simply bring an end to BCA empire as local BCL MLAs will have assurance of their incumbency that they won with razor thin margins.
Why are we still staying on the topic of who should run for the liberals, I thought no one is interested."
It's always interesting as to who runs for the federal Liberals.
"What about having the anti-NDP faction of Burnaby consolidating its support behind the government party."
Won't happen since most are federal Liberals and some are Tories.
"If Ryan Warawa does win tory candidacy against Peter Julian, and shall he win, he will be serving with his dad in Ottawa who is already serving in the cabinet."
Ryan will have to fly on his own if he wins.
"Is this strong a reason for anti-NDP consolidation? For TB/BCL prospects, John Nuraney and Lee Rankin particularly, guess who would beneift the most from a tory win?
What does civic have to do with federal? The two are not the same thing.
TB doesn't have anything to do with federal level parties.
"My suggestion? Some of these former liberals should start contemplating siding with the government against NDP in this election."
Won't happen.
Their support for the government will also not be forgotten considering removing the most prominent NDPer in Burnaby will simply bring an end to BCA empire as local BCL MLAs will have assurance of their incumbency that they won with razor thin margins.
So we're back to that again, are we?
Team Burnaby trying to be the only game in town? Harry decides who the candidates are?
Boring stuff!
No one has said that Harry Bloy is the power broker for anti-NDP coalition in Burnaby, He simply unites them together at the right time. Having his former colleague in the civic election and TB friends in the provincial election will simply bring the coalition closer together.
Federal elections are always tricky that vote consolidation is sometimes more difficult to do. But just like how Green-Liberal made an alliance out of anti-government sentiment, with strong enough opposition to NDP incumbents in Burnaby, I can certainly see a tory-liberal alliance forming against Peter Julian, especially if Warawa II becomes the candidate for the government party, possibly with the blessing from above just as Olivia Chow received. Dont be surprised to see John Nuraney's presence at Warawa's fundraising dinners.
"No one has said that Harry Bloy is the power broker for anti-NDP coalition in Burnaby, He simply unites them together at the right time."
No shit, Sherlock. That's what a power broker does.
Problem is that Harry thinks he's doing the right thing, but all that does is feed on his self-importance>
There's no absolute need for Harry to do that. With the right people, it can be done to come up with a civic party that people want to be a part of rather than a civic party where the membership does very little except watch the political hacks do what Harry tells them to do.
"Having his former colleague in the civic election and TB friends in the provincial election will simply bring the coalition closer together. "
Sure. Patti Sahota did very little in Burnaby.
Seems all of this is for Harry not really for the people of Burnaby.
Let the voters decide who wins Council since there's little hope of really letting the membership decide who is and who is not a candidate for Team Burnaby..
oops.. sorry..
Should be Team Bloy.
People, put on your seatbelt as the government party nominates its candidates going H2H against NDP incumbents, the government party candidates here are going to be far more interesting than the ones in Vancouver or elsewhere as the candidates in both ridings actually do believe they have what it takes to win the election. But will it be enough to take down the NDP.
Goverment Party candidates?
Nominations won't happen until late 2008 or early 2009.
it's one thing to have the candidates actually believing they have what it takes to win the election.
It's quite another to actually end up with that result.
Governing Party candidate as in Harper's federal party candidates rather than the provincial governing party candidates. Most of Burnaby is still under control of Gordon Campbell anyway.
Most of Burnaby is still under control of Gordon Campbell anyway.
No its not.
Gordon Campell means nothing at the federal level in Burnaby.
If Gordon found out about the excessive interference that Harry Bloy is doing at the civic level, Gordon would kick his ass.
Post a Comment
<< Home