Pynenburg: Quitter or Loser?
Mary Pynenburg's campaign "code of conduct", although intended as a respectful political move, looks more like a declaration of surrender:
Pynenburg, who is running on the issues of accountability, community, and prosperity, is running this election as a cancer survivor. In 2004, Pynenburg emphasized her role as New Westminster's Planning Director. Her campaign literature features the following line in bold font: It's time for a change in Burnaby-New Westminster. That is not the typical campaign theme from a candidate running for the governing party.
That is how things go on the Al Bundyesque Liberal campaign in Burnaby-New Westminster.
December 12: Advertising stops
December 16: Literature mailing stops
December 17: Main-streeting activities stop
December 23: Door-knocking, telephone canvassing, campaign volunteering, and riding campaign announcements stop; campaign office closes
December 28: Campaign office re-opens
December 31: Campaign office closes
January 2: Door-knocking, telephone canvassing, volunteering, literature mailing, main-streeting activities, and riding campaign announcements resume; campaign office re-opens
January 5: Campaign office closes
January 8: Campaign office re-opens
Pynenburg, who is running on the issues of accountability, community, and prosperity, is running this election as a cancer survivor. In 2004, Pynenburg emphasized her role as New Westminster's Planning Director. Her campaign literature features the following line in bold font: It's time for a change in Burnaby-New Westminster. That is not the typical campaign theme from a candidate running for the governing party.
That is how things go on the Al Bundyesque Liberal campaign in Burnaby-New Westminster.
posted by Robert Burnaby at 2:34 PM
35 Comments:
Magic 8 Ball says: LOSER!
December 12: Advertising stops
She's updated her web site with some lame-o new press releases since then. Isn't that advertising? Or is it an "Adscam"?
I think she is both. Using her city e-mail account to lure campaign donations from developers is the ultimate in classlessness, even for a Liberal.
What do you expect she is running in New West. Hard for the Libs to get a good candidate to run there as the chances of winning are extremely slim.
With her, they certainly got to what remains in resources, the sediment at the bottom of the barrel.
Too bad she doesn't live in the riding, that might give her an upper hand, but no, she can't even do that.
Doens't matter if she lives in the riding or not. She's not a winning candidate.
Evidently taking a break in the campaign also means pulling a no show at the only televised all candidates meeting held during the campaign. On her site, she posted an article from the South Asian Post or something like that, with an open letter to the conservative candidate, about the NRA issue with the conservatives, calling him out wanting to debate him etc.
Yet when it came time to play, guess ol' Mary had too much turkey over the holidays and decided to jam out of the BCTV all candidates meeting. Maybe she was afraid that Peter Julian would get her feathers ruffled, causing her stuffing to come loose, or even worse, she was worried about laying another egg.
Whatever the case, if you've seen the Liberal candidate for Burnaby New Westminster, please call LiberalFind... 1 866 GOMERY9. No doubt they'll be putting out her picture on milk cartons next.
Well she announced that "campaign volunteering" would stop until January 2nd. Guess that includes herself! I wonder if she's really determined to lose this election? Or maybe she was afraid Julian and Dalton would grill her mercilessly about that embarrassing BC Supreme Court judgement?
This woman is definately off her rocker.
The NRA thing is a dead issue.
Pynenburg is the new Drazenovic. End of story.
You mean that judgment when an honourable Supreme Court justice called our hero Mary a bald faced and malicious liar? That was awesome!
Yeah, this judgement!
http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/sc/99/02/s99-0298.txt
Thanks for the referenceto to legal case. I just finished reading it. I already knew Ms P was a piece of work from her active fundraising in her own department to run for parliament while still an employee of NWest. However I did not know her habit of using her position to screw the citizens of her own city. What would she do as an MP?
Liberals are all the same. What is it about that Party that so draws people like MP?
The smell?
We're debating the want to be politician. As for the battle of cancer in my family, I lost my dad to cancer and two trusted friends of mine (one with MS the other has had a heart condition since birth has has had a pacemaker since she was little) has had to endure a regimen of chemotherapy treatments and other things. We almost lost the one with MS.
Our heart goes out to Mary in her courageous personal battle over this scourge, but in terms of Mary wanting to be an MP, we'll pass on the political support and her political antics and record are par on the hockey rink of politics.
If she wants the benifit of being a candidate, she has to bear the burden. And that means she is fair game on things that are within the public domain. We're not attacking her as a person, but rather her rather odd record in political life.
To balance this off, Chuck Cadman lost his battle with cancer, and Chuck Strahl has terminal cancer.
Any similar feelings towards these two gentlemen, Laura? What about Penny Priddy (NDP) over there in Surrey who also won the battle over her cancer.
Laura...
Integrity, honesty, ethical behavior, along with determination and strength, and courage of convictions... that's what I want in my MP.
I just went to Penny Priddy's website, and looked up her biography. It's well known she's a cancer survivor, yet in her biography on the front page of the website there is absolutely no mention of this. I also to be fair and balanced looked up Chuck Strahl's website, and on the front page of his site is his blog. I scanned down for a bit and found no mention of the words terminal cancer.
Yet Mary chooses to include the term Cancer Survivor right after her name on her biography. No doubt she's a fighter for beating it back, no one on this site will dispute that. But when the first thing you read about anyone running for any office is (insert name here)- (name of medical affliction beaten back or defeated) right after that, as the first phrase used to describe yourself when running for office, I don't know, seems like we're reaching for the heart strings a little too hard if you ask me.
I went through and read the previous posts, Laura, and not one of them attacked Mary because she's a "cancer survivor" or the fact that she's using that on her site in her biography, and in all her press releases as well, as found on her website. Other than what I have stated above.
They do talk about accountability, integrity, ethics and the like in relation to Mary and the Steve Norman court case, and in other instances in the past, including the last election campaign. And I think as the last 3 weeks of the campaign roll around, you'll find that her and her past will become more and more of an issue, because she likes to talk about it and put her spin on things, and alot of times, that spin has nothing to do with reality.
An example of this... her status in relation to being or not being an architect in BC.
her status in relation to being or not being an architect in BC.
Interesting, since Architects are required to be registered as a practitioner of Architecture.
Wonder if she builds Gingerbread
houses according to code.
Someone should sniff that out. If she's saying she is when she isn't then she isn't when she should be and if she should be but isn't she shouldn't be saying she is.
It's true! It's true!
Pynenburg wrote a letter to the Royal City Record on Feb. 18, 2004, claiming:
"As I am a planner and architect, I am certain that it would surprise no one that I would receive contributions from my friends in the same field."
In fact, she WASN'T AN ARCHITECT AT ALL, and on March 24, 2004, the Record published a letter from the Director of Registration and Licensing of the Architectural Institute of B.C., saying:
"With respect to a recent Record article, "Planner denies conflict of interest," published in the Feb. 18 edition, we noted that reporter Lori Pappajohn quoted Mary Pynenburg's statement that "... I am an architect and planner ..."
THIS INDIVIDUAL IS NOT IN FACT AN ARCHITECT LICENSED TO PRACTISE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA. " (emphasis added).
Technically she is an architect (by means of completing a degree),
but she isn't a licensed architect.
One now wonders:
If Mary built a Gingerbread House
(from one of those gingerbreah house kits), would it be designed to code? Would it be structurally sound?
Would the gingerbread house "fit in" with the overall environment of the neighbourhood?
But then one has to wonder if Mary would be able to go to the federal Liberals and get grant money to persue a project to build gingerbread houses, since they are a cultural icon in some segments of Canadian Society. She builds the houses and gets paid to write a report in regards to gingerbread houses in Canada. The report goes to the Heritage Canada Minister.
She would be able to pay herself a "professional fee" for writing the report in regards to gingerbread house designs and perhaps establish some kind of building code for them.
The code itself would have to ensure that the inside of the house is water repellent, but able to allow water to escape, lest any water retained inside seeps into the walls and causes mildew.
The Paul Martin Liberals seem to have an affliction that is terminal, maybe that's why Mary "Christmas Vacation" Pynenburg feels so at home. They won't survive Jan. 23 with their government intact.
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Hey Laura Barbour way up there, I'm Steve Lai in real life, and I live in the electoral riding of Vancouver South. Feel free to arrange a debate with me any time.
Cancer this, cancer that, I'm tired of this crap. The federal Liberals is the last Canadian political party that deserve any "cancer sympathy votes". Why? The LIEberals have already broken a promise to a cancer victim. A cancer victim that saved their sorry asses in a crucial budget vote, no less.
You want me to have respect for cancer-stricken Liberals? Fine, I'll show my respect, the Liberal way. I'll promise to vote Liberal, and then break that promise on election day! How do you like THAT?
If Mary Pynenberg has the guts to come out and say something about this I may judge her differently. Right now she hasn't. So no change of heart from me.
"I know for a fact that she is an architect."
She is by education, not by licensed accreditation.
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bagging on Mary, the claims that she is not an archtect, or not an honest person I suggest you spend a little bit of time with her."
We have. We've seen the product last year.
Mary made a very stupid mistake of using City resources to enhance her 2004 Nomination Campaign. It's also interesting that she ragged on the Conservative Candidate last year because he was a member director of the local BC Liberal Executive and ragged on him about St. Mary's Hospital's closure. Wonder what Mary has to say in regrds to Joyce Murray (the federal Liberal running next door) as she was a Minister at the time of the closure?
Mary is a bland candidate. Will be interesting to see how she defends her beloved Martin Government in regards to AdScam and the latest with Goodale.
We wouldn't want to bag Mary.
We'll rag on her political record and political activities, though...
Re Bradi's comments.
Personally I do not know Mary P. I followed the articles in the NW Record two years ago. They made me wonder whether Mary P was the kind of person we should be sending to Ottawa. It seemed to me that the conflict of interest questions that were being raised were pretty relevent both to her continued employment in New West or her appropriateness as a Member of Parliament.
I have only recently heard about and read the judgement on the Norman case that is posted above on this page.
I hope you also have taken the time to read it. If not, why not?
Surely this case screams abuse of one's powerful position at city hall - the person in question being Mary P.
Now she is running to represent us in Ottawa. Let's agree to leave Party affiliations out of this. This is not about the Liberal Party, the Conservatives or the NDP. All three of them have at one time or other nominated some zingers.
This is about the total inappropriateness of one person to represent us.
Happy New Year to you.
Brandi, Brandi, Brandi. Maybe you should read the words of your own candidate, after she contacted the Record for a clarification:
"Mary Pynenburg has contacted the Architectural Institute of British Columbia to clear up any misunderstandings about her professional status.
Pynenburg, the federal Liberal candidate in Burnaby-New Westminster, provided The Record with a statement in February that stated she was an architect and a planner.
In response, the Architectural Institute of British Columbia wrote to The Record and stated Pynenburg is not an architect licensed to practise in B.C.
"I want to make clear I was saying I am trained as an architect and planner," Pynenburg said this week. "It is an inadvertent omission that we didn't say 'trained.'"
(Royal City Record, Mar. 27, 2004)
And yet at later all-candidates meetings, she STILL used the words "As an architect...." to describe herself!!!!!!!
This one is far too funny to not let it out.
Look at the Google cache of Pynenburg's site, from BEFORE Wayne Wright demanded his endorsement be pulled.
here
Then look at the current site.
here
Something look familiar? After pulling the Wright endorsement, she uses EXACTLY the same words and puts someone else's name under them!
What are the chances that Mr. Osterman would use EXACTLY the same words to describe her, coincidentally (?) IMMEDIATELY after the Wright endorsement was withdrawn?
Next thing you know, she'll be claiming to be an "architect" or something!
She also can't get her history right.
One endorsement she wrote is factually wrong.
Alan Emmott was never the First Mayor of Burnaby as she writes in her website on the reference line.
Op. Cit.:
"as a Member of Parliament serving the interests of both Burnaby and New Westminster."
Alan Emmott, first Mayor of Burnaby and former Chair of the Greater Vancouver Regional District"
Burnaby's first mayor was in office in 1892. Alan Emmott served as Mayor of Burnaby in the 1970's.
Alan is still very much alive. If Alan was indeed the First Mayor of Burnaby, he would be a loving memory to all of us who got to know him.
Also interesting is the endorsement from Barbara Der, former Councillor. Barbara served on Burnaby council in the 1990's.
But she is also endorsing Billy Boy as well, as a far more comprehensive endorsement is on Billy Boy's website than Mary's.
Barbara Der has been a mainstay in the Burnaby federal Liberal community for decades and was riding president at one time or another in the 1980's and early 1990's. She would be considered to be a bit of a Blue Liberal.
As for Osterman and the probability, it's zero. Mary cheaped out and just posted the Wright endorsement over to the Osterman one. Talk about cheap, couldn't even take the time to get a verbatim endorsement.
Changing the name on a pre written endorsement is pretty cheap. I bet lots of candidates write endorsements and ask people to put their name to it.. but making it so transparent by recycling quotes is appalling.
Someone pointed out that Mary criticized Conservative Candidate Mike Redmond for being on Joyce Murray's BC Liberal riding executive, but she is now running on the same slate as Joyce. Well a look through Joyce's financing reports (http://142.36.252.26/cgi-bin/bcimg/?_100105577+0) shows that Mary personally contributed $750 to Joyce's 2005 re-election campaign, and her husband (Jacques Leger) contributed $622 too.
Smells of hypocricy.
I kind of like the irony of Mary's old site. One of the sections you could go to was titled "there's something about Mary." There sure is something about Mary, and not talking about her personally, but her politics. People don't just walk away from such prominent positions as city planner for New West, unless it's for a promotion, yet there's no mention whatsoever about what Mary Pynenburg has been doing since she left/was shown the door in the New Westminster. Other than funneling to Joyce Murray and working as a campaign worker/manager for Bob Hans in the last provincial election. Who's Bob Hans, you may ask (well you probably won't because we're for the most part astute politically... lol) well Mr. Hans was a candidate in surrey for the Campbell Liberals.
So Mary who threw all sorts of accusations Mike Redmond's way in regards to being a neo conservative, seems to have been drinking from the same bathwater or kool aid as Mike did back then. One also wonders what Mary and Marc do all the day in their towers on Kingsway, opposite each other. Probably write nasty messages on cardboard like giant flashcards to be read by the other side across the street.
The more you dig into Mary's career as a bureaucrat and a politician, the more you see the hypocrisy, a tradition when it comes to both the provincial and federal liberal candidates from New Westminster. You can't run and hide from what's now public record. Eday minus 21, let the fun begin.
That "There's Something About Mary" title tag is a cheap borrowing from the movie of the same name.
Speaking of the movie... it does make you wonder what kind of hair products she uses. :)
"only her hairdresser knows for sure"..
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