What the cabinet will hold
There has been plenty of cabinet speculation today over who is in and who is out of Gordon Campbell's cabinet as he begins his third term as Premier.
Burnaby will likely remain on the outside despite the need to shore up BC Liberal support in Burnaby after losing another seat to the NDP. If Burnaby is to sneak into cabinet, Richard T. Lee is the likely bet for a junior portfolio. In a long shot prediction, the Georgia Straight suggested Lee might be one to watch tomorrow.
Thusfar, Harry Bloy has not been the subject of any speculation.
Burnaby will likely remain on the outside despite the need to shore up BC Liberal support in Burnaby after losing another seat to the NDP. If Burnaby is to sneak into cabinet, Richard T. Lee is the likely bet for a junior portfolio. In a long shot prediction, the Georgia Straight suggested Lee might be one to watch tomorrow.
Thusfar, Harry Bloy has not been the subject of any speculation.
posted by Robert Burnaby at 3:31 PM
43 Comments:
That need to shore up BC Liberal support is going to be a real task.
No one to blame except the BC Liberal Party themselves for losing Burnaby Deer Lake.
Lee should get his parliamentary secretary's post back.
Harry isn't cabinet material. Will probably get his being Chair of the Committee of the Whole back.
Bloy is more cabinet material than Lee.
The only reason Lee would get a cabinet post would be to appease the Asian population of the province. Sorry for being an H-Hole but honesty trumps political correctiveness.
Either way it would be a junior cabinet position. One you don't hear about much.
Lee is more smarter than Harry is.
Harry doesn't have much to offer
to the province, but Richard does.
Richard is far more friendly too.
Harry has gone through Constituecy Assistants as a surgeon does gloves during hemmoroid surgery.
Lee is more smarter than Harry is.
Harry doesn't have much to offer
to the province, but Richard does.
Richard is far more friendly too.
Harry has gone through Constituecy Assistants as a surgeon does gloves during hemmoroid surgery.
Harry is more thorough and organized. Just look at his campaign. Harry had more and better signs than Richard and they were down the day after the election.
I saw one of Richards signs still up the other day.
Harry had the same signs of basic design that Richard had. Only difference was the name and riding label on them.
Richard won by + 65 votes in 2005.
Richard won by + 580 votes in 2009.
Harry Bloy won by + 372 in 2005.
Harry Bloy won by + 696 in 2009.
Richard increased his vote count far more than Harry did.
If Harry is more thorough and organised, that still leaves his
tendency to be a person with an anger management issue.
He needs to correct that (and stop
being cranky all the time. he might want begin being more friendly too).
I'd also tell him to lose the idea that he'll become the Baron of Burnaby (after crowning himself the "King of Coquitlam").
I'd also tell him to lose the Scout getup wearing in the House.
Richard Lee as an individual is garbage, he won purely b/c of the BC Liberal flag. Any BC Liberal can now win Burnaby North. If it was still a swing riding, the Redman name, low voter turnout, union volunteers, and the detention centre issue would have given an NDP win, but instead a poor candidate like Richard still won with a even greater margin. The socialist days of Burnaby North are over as a result of the new development in Brentwood and the general increased intelligence in average BC voters, now realizing that an NDP government will always be an economic suicide pill.
Harry had the same signs of basic design that Richard had. Only difference was the name and riding label on them.
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Harry had some slogans on his signs that Richard didn't.
Sounds like someone has a vendetta against Harry.
Harry didn't have any slogans. Just his name in Chinese. Nothing unusual there.
Lots of people find Harry not exactly a good friendly person.
"Richard Lee as an individual is garbage, he won purely b/c of the BC Liberal flag. Any BC Liberal can now win Burnaby North."
Probably because Richard was able to find and secure additional votes for the BC Liberals. What about Bloy? He won because of the BC Liberal flag,too.
"If it was still a swing riding, the Redman name, low voter turnout, union volunteers, and the detention centre issue would have given an NDP win, but instead a poor candidate like Richard still won with a even greater margin. "
It still is a swing riding, and not all union members vote NDP.
The socialist days of Burnaby North are over as a result of the new development in Brentwood and the general increased intelligence in average BC voters, now realizing that an NDP government will always be an economic suicide pill.
Partially true, but the NDP won't be government until 2013 at the least.
Harry's increased vote count can almost be directly attributed to the riding realignment (with some of North's hard Liberal polls moving over to Lougheed).
Considering the fact that North took on polls from Willingdon that lean NDP -- evidenced by the fact that after redistribution, based on 2005's results, North leaned NDP by 1% while Lougheed leaned Liberal by 3% -- one could argue that Richard outperformed Harry.
Only a fool would characterize North to be any less of a swing riding than Lougheed. And in terms of opponents, while Mondee didn't run a strong campaign per se, she is definitely a higher quality candidate than Jaynie Clark.
Given each candidate's (or MLA now, I guess) riding circumstances in the '09 election, I'd say Richard's victory is more impressive than Harry's.
As a person, Richard is pretty bland, but he's personable. So I don't really understand the vitriol by the above commenter. Maybe somebody is just upset that Harry isn't the lone BCL wolf in Burnaby?
"Harry's increased vote count can almost be directly attributed to the riding realignment (with some of North's hard Liberal polls moving over to Lougheed)."
Not much of an increased vote count compared to Richard's.
"Considering the fact that North took on polls from Willingdon that lean NDP -- evidenced by the fact that after redistribution, based on 2005's results, North leaned NDP by 1% while Lougheed leaned Liberal by 3% -- one could argue that Richard outperformed Harry."
No argument there. Richard did outperform Harry.
"Only a fool would characterize North to be any less of a swing riding than Lougheed."
Kind of splitting hairs. All of Burnaby ridings are considered swing ridings, but Edmonds has solidified its support to Chouhan.
"And in terms of opponents, while Mondee didn't run a strong campaign per se, she is definitely a higher quality candidate than Jaynie Clark. "
Agree there. Mondee is bland.
"Given each candidate's (or MLA now, I guess) riding circumstances in the '09 election, I'd say Richard's victory is more impressive than Harry's. "
Very true. Harry should have done better than he did. Tells the observer that the north half of the riding (west part of his Burquitlam riding) wasn't all that enthused about Harry otherwise there would have been a larger vote count in the riding as a whole.
"As a person, Richard is pretty bland, but he's personable. So I don't really understand the vitriol by the above commenter."
Richard is also hard to listen to at times, but he is personable. Far more than Harry has been.
"Maybe somebody is just upset that Harry isn't the lone BCL wolf in Burnaby?"
Face facts children. Harry isn't the only kid in the political sandbox at Burnaby Playground.
The other kids seem to like that Richard kid alot more than ol' Harry.
Glad this silliness is finished.
Bloy is out. He's not a Minister, not even a parliamentary secretary.
Richard is a parliamentary secretary.
Bloy is out. He's not even a parliamentary secretary. Richard is a parliamentary secretary.
---Yes, that's a fact. Hmmm, how many Chinese MLAs did Campbell have to chose from in the BC Liberal caucus, and how many middle age white guys? ...But of course that has nothing to do with Richard's appointment at all. Not at all...
To support the post above, Chinese Canadians are by far the largest minority group in the province and the govt needs a minister to liase with them. And that is the sole reason for Richard in his ultra-junior 'cabinet' post. Ida Chong doesnt speak Chinese and is from Victoria, not the lower mainland where the majority of chinese live, and John Yap is not Chinese, his background is Taiwan. That leaves Richard.
John Yap is also Chinese. There are two kinds. Mainland Chinese and Taiwan Chinese, but it's splitting hairs.
Being Taiwanese means your heritiage is from that country, not being a specific race.
You have for example Caucasion who are Italian, Spanish, German etc.
Richard has had that Asia-Pacific Parliamentary post for some time and has done well with it. If Campbell figured he wanted to "reach out" to the Chinese ethnic community with "one of their own" there were plenty to choose from, John Yap, Ida Chong were possibles.
But Harry is out.
Once again.
His supporters should take a good look at him in a picture rather than blaming his current position on others or ethnicity.
You simply cannot conclude that b/c Richard got appointed parliamentary secretary that Richard is somehow 'better' than Harry, especially when the absolute sole reason for Richard's appointment is that he is the only chinese person in caucus from the lower mainland. The appointment is about Asia, not about Burnaby. Your spin is so far out that its laughable.
Anyways, this debate is not even worth it because it suggests that Parliamentary Secretary is something bigger than what it actually is. It's not like a cabinet post or anything close to it. Richard is still a backbencher.
"You simply cannot conclude that b/c Richard got appointed parliamentary secretary that Richard is somehow 'better' than Harry, especially when the absolute sole reason for Richard's appointment is that he is the only chinese person in caucus from the
lower mainland."
Not true in regards to Chinese person from the Lower Mainland. John Yap is also from the Lower Mainland.
Face facts. Richard got at least a Parliamentary Secretary post, and Harry got a locked door.
"The appointment is about Asia, not about Burnaby. Your spin is so far out that its laughable. "
Well considering it is about Asia, but Asia is not exclusively Chinese, so your spin is so far out that it's laughable.
Richard has had the post before and given where he is originally from factors in, but Richard is also much more personable than Harry has ever been.
Anyways, this debate is not even worth it because it suggests that Parliamentary Secretary is something bigger than what it actually is. It's not like a cabinet post or anything close to it. Richard is still a backbencher.
Does this mean Richard gets taken out to lunch on Secretary's day?
Buy him a nice lunch at a good restuarant and find out yourself.
I'm sure he'll accept the invitation.
Call his office and arrange it.
Bloy has some mental issues... Lee is nice but too weak...
Bloy does have some issues.
The guy is crabby most of the time.
An MLA that goes through alot of Constituency Assistants isn't cabinet material. His episodes of
rage againt the CA's he's had is legendary and it did reach the Speaker's Office at one point.
He needs to be more polite and understanding, not be a job placement board for his friends, and just be a nice guy for once.
Should also get away from trying to be the most important kid in the sandbox.
Could use a haircut too.
John Yap is Taiwanese not Chinese and if you think that the difference is "splitting hairs" it reveals how uneducated you are.
I'm happy Burnaby has MLAs on the govt side of the house, but there is nothing particularly good about Richard. Lots of negatives- Bad communicator, awkward socially, no unique personal accomplishments or success, cant motivate or encourage volunteers, cant fundraise, unknown in the community, no media coverage, seems winey and weak and clueless... But don't get me wrong, he's not crooked, nor arrogant, and seems like he tries his best.
John Yap is Taiwanese not Chinese and if you think that the difference is "splitting hairs" it reveals how uneducated you are.
Um, you need a little lesson in the funamentals, there pal.
There are actually several aspects to being Chinese. Mainland Chinese, and Taiwan Chinese.
Try reading this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_people
Taiwan didn't exist much prior to 1949 after which the KMT arrived on the island of Formosa to establish the Repubic of Taiwan after fleeing the Communist Regime
set up by Mao ZeDong.
Being "Taiwanese" means being from
Taiwan.
I'm happy Burnaby has MLAs on the govt side of the house, but there is nothing particularly good about Richard.
Sure.
Lots of negatives- Bad communicator, awkward socially, no unique personal accomplishments or success, cant motivate or encourage volunteers, cant fundraise, unknown in the community,"
Um. Richard is well known in the community of Burnaby.
no media coverage, seems winey and weak and clueless... But don't get me wrong, he's not crooked, nor arrogant, and seems like he tries his best.
Well harry hasn't tried, except to be grumpy all the time.
Not to mention always tried with success to find political jobs for his friends.
I bet when you buy produce at the supermarket you ask yourself what vegetables Harry Bloy eats and then buy something different and feel good about yourself.
My friend it's not healthy to dedicate your life to a vendetta against Harry Bloy. Every comment you read on this blog, you reply with a pathetic attempt to link it to some criticism of Harry Bloy. Are you the CA he yelled at and you haven't got over it yet? There's gotta be something you're not disclosing here. -Whatever, none of my business- Point is that not every single thing in Burnaby politics is to be related to Harry Bloy; if that's your goal, then go start an anti Harry Bloy blog.
What does Richard being a poor MLA have to do with Harry? Criticize Harry Bloy all you want, there's definitely material there to work with, but it doesn't make Richard any better.
"Richard is well known in the community in Burnaby"... Hahahaha!
You're wrong on Taiwan / China. Call any Taiwanese person Chinese and I guarantee s/he'll correct you and say "I'm from Taiwan". Do you think calling people Croatians, Serbians, and Bosnians are "splitting hairs" and they should all be called Yugoslavs? I'm sure you're smarter than that. Come on, how some cultural respect for people.
And did you actually post a wikipedia link? THAT'S YOUR EDUCATION? Hahahaha! Aren't you embarrassed??
Sorry pal, I don't read wikipedia. I didn't invest in a graduate degree to dumb down education to reading internet columns posted by any random virgin loser sitting in basement.
"I bet when you buy produce at the supermarket you ask yourself what vegetables Harry Bloy eats and then buy something different and feel good about yourself."
So cares what vegetables Harry eats? You?
"My friend it's not healthy to dedicate your life to a vendetta against Harry Bloy."
Just stating what alot people know about him. Harry has been setting vendetta against others for years.
"Every comment you read on this blog, you reply with a pathetic attempt to link it to some criticism of Harry Bloy. Are you the CA he yelled at and you haven't got over it yet?"
Sorry never been a CA and don't intend to be one. Again it comes back to what was reported elsewherre.
"There's gotta be something you're not disclosing here. -Whatever, none of my business- Point is that not every single thing in Burnaby politics is to be related to Harry Bloy; if that's your goal, then go start an anti Harry Bloy blog."
Not much value there.
"What does Richard being a poor MLA have to do with Harry? Criticize Harry Bloy all you want, there's definitely material there to work with, but it doesn't make Richard any better. "
The two are not related but someone certainly doesn't like Harry being nothing and Richard being something.
"Richard is well known in the community in Burnaby"... Hahahaha!"
Look around.
You're wrong on Taiwan / China. Call any Taiwanese person Chinese and I guarantee s/he'll correct you and say "I'm from Taiwan". Do you think calling people Croatians, Serbians, and Bosnians are "splitting hairs" and they should all be called Yugoslavs?"
Yugoslavia hasn't existed since the 1990s'.
Your confusing a linguistic and ethnic group (Chinese) with a nationality (Taiwanese). A Chinese person can and does come from
Taiwan.
" I'm sure you're smarter than that. Come on, how some cultural respect for people.
Er, why don't you?
"And did you actually post a wikipedia link? THAT'S YOUR EDUCATION? Hahahaha! Aren't you embarrassed??
Sorry pal, I don't read wikipedia. I didn't invest in a graduate degree to dumb down education to reading internet columns posted by any random virgin loser sitting in basement."
Obviously arrogance was one of the better part of your studies.
Try again when you have the smarts to do so.
nothing of value here
it's all bile
No shit, Sherlock.
Some thought Harry won by a mile.
On election day, many a volunteer for Harry had a smile.
Some MLAs got into Cabinet, Harry didn't get a file.
Some got irritated by comments made, and said it was all bile..
Harry Bloy,
MLA for Burnaby-Lougheed.
Whether you like it or not.
No poem will change it.
People have spoken. Democracy wins.
Give it up. Deal with it.
You're a nerd. Loser too.
---Do you like it?
---It's more of a Haiku...
Harry Bloy,
MLA for Burnaby-Lougheed.
He won, but he lost.
Didn't get a cabinet post, His supporters were in a frost.
Harry Bloy. Supporters found he was
in the backbench, political goodies, they lost.
One thought the poetic writer was
a loser, the responding writer who wrote that, for him it was definately true.
Harry Bloy, MLA Burnaby Lougheed.
An MLA's wanting cabinet career once again gone down the loo.
Harry won.
But he also lost. Again.
Nope. Hasn't lost a thing. Not only does he have everything he had before, but now add a big pay raise and pension too. No loss, only gain.
Harry didn't get any more pay raise than the other successfully elected MLAs, plus that coveted pension.
So no gain.
But his supporters were hoping for better things for our hapless MLA,
which didn't happen.
Richard got a pay raise (Parliamentary Secretary gets a bit more than a backbencher) plus
an avenue to do more good.
Harry isn't any well off than he was prior to the election.
A few figured that Harry wanted to get re-elected to receive that coveted pension. Probably since his quality of representation to the citizens is hardly stellar.
So what's next for the self-labelled "King of Coquitlam". Becoming a self-labelled "Baron of Burnaby"?
One hopes he gets a haircut.
Could use a shave too.
He looks so cute in that little Boy Scout's uniform!
um, well, what ever turn you on, sweetcakes...
Harry Bloy has won 3 times now. Maybe the goatee and boy scouts' uniform is the secret to his success.
Actually not. It makes him look like a fool.
Only reason why Harry has won three times is that the NDP ran weak candidates.
But doesn't matter. He's cashed in.
He has his coveted pension.
The voters end up with a bland MLA
who is most likely scheming to come up with another way of interfering with civic and federal politics again as usual.
Harry Bloy- 3 elections fought, 3 elections won. Looking like a fool notwithstanding, those boy scout threads gotta be some kind of lucky charm.
Oh, and NDP had weak candidates against Harry? Yes, they were all weak- not only against Harry, but all across the province. That's why they run for the NDP, because they are weak. Especially in Burnaby where they were all unaccomplished union hacks who got nominated due to NDP policies of affirmative action and ignoring any examination of merit.
"Harry Bloy- 3 elections fought, 3 elections won. Looking like a fool notwithstanding, those boy scout threads gotta be some kind of lucky charm."
They're not. Harry didn't win by large amounts in any of those elections, and again the NDP ran a weak candidate against him.
You're also forgetting sunshine that he's had complaints about his attitude by those who had worked for him.
Oh, and NDP had weak candidates against Harry? Yes, they were all weak- not only against Harry, but all across the province. That's why they run for the NDP, because they are weak. Especially in Burnaby where they were all unaccomplished union hacks who got nominated due to NDP policies of affirmative action and ignoring any examination of merit.
Well not exactly sunshine.
But I'll award a half point on that one.
Sunshine eh? Love it.
I'll give you a half point too... a half point cuz you're a half wit.
Bloy can wear that scouts outfit every day for all I care. As long he doesn't wear a Brownies uniform...
If Hary wears a Brownie uniform, he's much more weirder than he is right now.
Harry isn't god's gift to politics, not by a long shot.
I'd also lose the blind loyalty towards him. Doesn'tdo him any favours.
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