Let's see how big of a scandal this can become
The Burnaby Now is reporting that a joint meeting of Burnaby's councillors, MLAs, and MPs produced a bit of profanity from Nick Volkow. Volkow told MLA Harry Bloy to read a book and get with the program with some other colourful words.
Volkow, whose first name is a mild Australian curse word, has not publicly apologized to Bloy. Bloy is asking for a public apology after thinking about Volkow's remarks over the holidays.
At least Burnaby politicians are still a long way from turning each other's names into vulgarities like was done to former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum. However, if they wanted to make council meetings on Shaw a bit more popular they could start.
Volkow, whose first name is a mild Australian curse word, has not publicly apologized to Bloy. Bloy is asking for a public apology after thinking about Volkow's remarks over the holidays.
At least Burnaby politicians are still a long way from turning each other's names into vulgarities like was done to former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum. However, if they wanted to make council meetings on Shaw a bit more popular they could start.
posted by Robert Burnaby at 3:18 PM
44 Comments:
Harry should just let it go.
Nick is a truck driver by trade and the language he used is nothing compared to the language I've heard on construction sites.
This comes up after 30 days?
Must be a slow day for Harry.
Shouldnt Derek kick this out of his caucus? But it's not hard to understand why he is not doing that, seeing that Derek merely has a 5-4 advantage on the council.
But if this is the kind of person Derek wants to align himself with, it is fine with me, I would love to see him out of the office, keep doing that and it will be about time.
At least Nick had an honest profession before he turned to the dark side (politics).
Whats so surprising here. Volkow professes to be a professional truck driver.
Sounds like some old fashioned loading dock talk.
Stay tuned as Volkow now moves to a trailer park.
"Whats so surprising here. Volkow professes to be a professional truck driver. "
He is a profesional truck driver. He is a Teamster (the union). Drives a regular highway truck and trailer for a food company.
Harry? Just a dusty worn out old politician who can dish it out but obviously can't take it.
"Sounds like some old fashioned loading dock talk."
Or the kind of language that would be
heard in a Team Burnaby campaign office.
"Stay tuned as Volkow now moves to a trailer park. "
Volkow doesn't need to move into a trailer park. He probably has enough in his accounts to buy a recreational one in Osoyoos.
The only one that should be in a Trailer Park in this idiotic episode is Harry Bloy.
Harry is just wanting to be news again.
Professional Truck Driver?
Does that mean he wont take less than 50 pallets.
"Professional Truck Driver?
Does that mean he wont take less than 50 pallets."
It means, silly boy, that he drives a company big rig for a living, and that means he takes what the company tells him to take. The trailer is almost always full as he has many stops on his route.
Who are you his dad.
>>"1/28/2007 8:30 AM"
If you seriously believe that he is a mega-millionaire, please check his nomination form and financial disclosure, you may be surprised.
The problem I have with Corrigan & Co. is that they are trying lie their behind off just to cover Nick, so that they can have that one extra vote on the council. Nick would have been kicked out of the party had he said this before 2005. I would like to think it is just going to get uglier between Derek Gang and the BC Liberals. I cant wait for King Corrigan to be unseated.
"The problem I have with Corrigan & Co. is that they are trying lie their behind off just to cover Nick, so that they can have that one extra vote on the council. "
If you believe that, you also believe in the Easter Bunny then all the more power to you.
Harry has a tendency to have dramatic episodes.
"Nick would have been kicked out of the party had he said this before 2005. I would like to think it is just going to get uglier between Derek Gang and the BC Liberals. I cant wait for King Corrigan to be unseated. "
Wouldn't wait for that bus to arrive at the bus stop.
The Derek Gang will be re-elected until the time comes that Team Burnaby gets smart and their principal people stop playing power play games.
They only got those two extra seats simply because the BCA/NDP was unusally weak. Not because of some magical formula that the BC Liberal Farm Team came up with. That farm team has never won a civic election majority since they were formed in 1994.
The best thing for the BCA is to have Corrigan step off and a new candidate come along to take over.
"Who are you his dad."
Nope.
Who are you, one of Harry's blindly loyal disciples, or a reciepient of
a job from Harry?
My mistake, Derek has a 6-3 advantage on the council. In that case, I admit that Derek has no reason to keep Nick. Sure, defending Nick will keep him loyal, but more than likely it will back fire.
But I do believe BC will start to pick out Derek & Co. I do expect Richard Neufeld, Richard Lee, and of course Harry Bloy to be challenged by some of the current sitting councillors.
"I admit that Derek has no reason to keep Nick. Sure, defending Nick will keep him loyal, but more than likely it will back fire. "
Nick does his work. I'd get rid of
Colleenand Pietro before I'd get rid of Nick.
You jsut want Nick gone because he allegedly used a bad adult word to Harry, and Harry's whining about it.
"But I do believe BC will start to pick out Derek & Co. I do expect Richard Neufeld, Richard Lee, and of course Harry Bloy to be challenged by some of the current sitting councillors."
A bit of a strech on one of those.
Richard Neufeld is the MLA for Peace River as in way way up north at Dawson Creek.
You may be thinking of Richard Lee. He's almost toast. He almost lost last time and the NDP will be snacking on him next time. They want the seat back.
As for Harry, it will be good for him to have stiff opposition. Will make him sweat.
A change in MLA's would be good otherwise they get old and worn out.
"I admit that Derek has no reason to keep Nick. Sure, defending Nick will keep him loyal, but more than likely it will back fire. "
Nick does his work. I'd get rid of
Colleenand Pietro before I'd get rid of Nick.
You jsut want Nick gone because he allegedly used a bad adult word to Harry, and Harry's whining about it.
"But I do believe BC will start to pick out Derek
>>1/30/2007 2:31 PM
1, I meant BC Liberal will start to pick out Derek and his minions. Nick or whoever following Derek's every order is on the top of my to-go list.
Pietro Calendino will probably abandon his seat to run against Richard Lee again. (We all know why he ran for city council for). I fully expect Richard Lee to win the riding again. He may have to play a role for those who will oppose Carole in the next BCLib leadership race.
Harry Bloy is not safe at all, but if he is to be challenged. Colleen Jordan has wanted to go partisan for a long time and she could challenge Harry, but I dont see him facing any of the current sitting councillor.
2, I meant John Nuraney, not Richard Neufeld, (I get mixed up sometimes.) He is in a tricky riding though, if Gabriel Yiu runs again, Richard may lose the election.
With distribution Harry might be a Coquitlam MLA next time around. Getting rid of the Burnaby portion is probably good for him.
1, I meant BC Liberal will start to pick out Derek and his minions. Nick or whoever following Derek's every order is on the top of my to-go list.
That's a big joke. The BC Liberal "machine" couldn't find a good candidate to go against Derek. They decided on a guy who got into the "spirit" of things so to speak.
And they were too busy giving away paid jobs to friends who wouldn't be
able to figure out how to put up signs properly.
Pietro Calendino will probably abandon his seat to run against Richard Lee again. (We all know why he ran for city council for). I fully expect Richard Lee to win the riding again. He may have to play a role for those who will oppose Carole in the next BCLib leadership race.
Sorry. Isn't going to happen. Pietro
has already been an MLA. He's too busy
being a councillor.
Richard is a federal Liberal and so is Carol. The next BC Liberal Leadership won't happen until at least 2011.
"arry Bloy is not safe at all, but if he is to be challenged. Colleen Jordan has wanted to go partisan for a long time and she could challenge Harry, but I dont see him facing any of the current sitting councillor."
Colleen Jordan is a wimp. Harry needs a far more stronger candidate to go against him, and better yet, finish him off, politically.
2, I meant John Nuraney, not Richard Neufeld, (I get mixed up sometimes.) He is in a tricky riding though, if Gabriel Yiu runs again, Richard may lose the election.
You got your ridings mixed up again.
Gabriel Yiu ran in Burnaby Willingdon,
not Burnaby North. Richard is MLA for
Burnaby North, not Willingdon.
Nice try though.
Richard Neufeld IS the MLA for Burnaby Willingdon, Pietro Calendino ran against Richard Lee in Burnaby North in 05.
Both Burnaby Willingdon and B-North will probably see rematches as Peitro never leaves. I dont think he will run for the city council reelection. On the other hand, Gabriel Yiu has really increased his visibility in Burnaby Willingdon. It will be a good rematch.
As someone sugggested, Harry Bloy (as he originally came from) may be distributed to Coquitlam. It will probably make his seat safer. Otherwise, other than Nick V he has not made many enemies out of the local NDP. Colleen Jordan is possible because Harry's riding is the only place she has a shot at winning the NDP nomination. (Bart Healey is by far the weakest NDP candidate in Burnaby.)
Richard Neufeld IS the MLA for Burnaby Willingdon, Pietro Calendino ran against Richard Lee in Burnaby North in 05.
Sorry, try again. John Nuraney IS the MLA for Burnaby Willingdon, Richard Neufeld IS the MLA for Peace River.
You did get one fundamental fact right though, Pietro Caledino did run against Richard Lee in 05, but Richard
ran aainst Pietro in 01.
"Both Burnaby Willingdon and B-North will probably see rematches as Peitro never leaves. "
I wouldn't bet the mortgage on that.
Petiero might run again, but it's not
guaranteed.
"I dont think he will run for the city council reelection. On the other hand, Gabriel Yiu has really increased his visibility in Burnaby Willingdon. It will be a good rematch. "
It will make John Nuraney sweat. It's
always good to make the candidates and their campaign managers sweat.
"As someone sugggested, Harry Bloy (as he originally came from) may be distributed to Coquitlam. It will probably make his seat safer."
Not likely to happen. But could. If it does, the Harry will be out of Burnaby for good and the so-called self important self-named "King of Coquitlam" can run there and Coquitlam
can take him if they want him.
Otherwise, other than Nick V he has not made many enemies out of the local NDP. Colleen Jordan is possible because Harry's riding is the only place she has a shot at winning the NDP nomination. (Bart Healey is by far the weakest NDP candidate in Burnaby.)
Bart Heatly is a fool as is Harry.
Harry's been very lucky to have a weak opposition, but that can change, if the NDP really wants to take him out.
A good stiff strong opposition is what Harry needs. He's never really won a good election, the last two were practically handed to him in a ballot envelope.
This thing with Nick and Harry wanting an apology from Volkow for Harry hearing a bad adult word thrown at him is pathetic.
Harry can certianly dish it out, but obviously can't take it.
What goes around comes around.
Well, that is true, what goes around comes around. This Nick vs Harry thing may play a factor in next year's provincial election nomination race. Again, I suspect if Colleen Jordan has the gut to bring her political ambition one step further, Harry Bloy is the only incumbent she has a chance contesting. I am sure her ambition does not lie on the municipal affair only.
As for Nick, Harry Bloy wants to make sure he becomes a non-factor and that is defintely fine, I just hope it does not backfire on him.
But I gotta, say, thise Neufeld Nuraney thing is driving me crazy. And yes, it is John Nuraney and he may lose to Gabriel Yiu next election, I expect that to be the only possible NDP pick in the next election.
"Well, that is true, what goes around comes around. This Nick vs Harry thing may play a factor in next year's provincial election nomination race. "
Why would it? Unless Nick decides to
run for the NDP in Harry's riding, which is very unlikely.
"Again, I suspect if Colleen Jordan has the gut to bring her political ambition one step further, Harry Bloy is the only incumbent she has a chance contesting. "
Collen Jordan is a wimp. She doesn't
know what she is talking about most of the time, and she seems to want airtime
on Council, thus wasting taxpayer's
money on long winded speeches.
"I am sure her ambition does not lie on the municipal affair only. "
Don't bet the boat on that one.
"As for Nick, Harry Bloy wants to make sure he becomes a non-factor and that is defintely fine, I just hope it does not backfire on him."
It will. That supposition of yours is
just another indicator that Harry is getting way too self-important, and
it's not up to Harry if Nick becomes
a non-factor. Harry should just learn and then forget about it, but he seems to be too self-important to let it go.
Pathetic.
"But I gotta, say, thise Neufeld Nuraney thing is driving me crazy."
Learn your fundamentals. Learn your
ridings. Sit down with a Timmie's and
muffin and go through an MLA list.
"And yes, it is John Nuraney and he may lose to Gabriel Yiu next election, I expect that to be the only possible NDP pick in the next election. "
There's also Edmonds and Bby North, plus if the NDP were back to where they should be, they can easily take Burquitlam too.
Even if John doesn't run again, Willingdon is not heavily BC Liberal,
and the NDP could take it back quite easily.
They'll snack on who ever runs in Willingdon.
The NDP were surprisingly weak in 2005
except for the federal election, and they will be very strong once again.
Watch out.
When that happens they'll go after the BC Liberal candidates, like a starving pit bull would go after a piece of raw meat.
Quite true, there are just too many names to learn, so, silly me..:)..
Richard Lee has been quite visible in the community, and shall Peitro run against him again, or some other unknown political figure, Richard Lee will prevail. Given Bill Siksay's presence in the community, Pietro should have taken the riding, but he didnt and he probably wont get another chance to do that.
John Nuraney however is simply a weak MLA more so than Harry Bloy in terms of local support. Someone like Gabriel Yiu who can motivate the voter vase shall take him out easily.
As for Harry Bloy, he is safe and we all know it. And I guess mentioning Colleen is irrevelant since she and Nick are the most vulnerable city councillor to lose before Team-B gains majority on the council. She may become female NDP candidate shall she run for the nomination in Harry's riding, so I would suggest she think about it as NDP is running out of candidates, even if she is destined to lose.
"Richard Lee has been quite visible in the community, and shall Peitro run against him again, or some other unknown political figure, Richard Lee will prevail. "
Not nessesarily. But to his credit,
Richard has "taken care of the riding",
much more than John Nuraney has his.
But doing so does not guarantee re-election. But granted Richard is an incumbent and incumbent politicos are
difficult to remove, unless the government of the day does something incredibly stupid.
"Given Bill Siksay's presence in the community, Pietro should have taken the riding, but he didnt and he probably wont get another chance to do that."
True, but it has nothing to do with
Siskay. It has more to do with the fact that the same NDPers who work the provincial election, also work the civic and federal election, and they have been noticeably weak in 2005.
"John Nuraney however is simply a weak MLA more so than Harry Bloy in terms of local support. "
No kidding, but John is much more personable and friendly than Harry is.
Harry has a propensity for pissing off quite a few people with his self-importance and arrogance, while John is
much mroe friendly.
"Someone like Gabriel Yiu who can motivate the voter vase shall take him out easily. "
Anyone could take out John easily.
"As for Harry Bloy, he is safe and we all know it. "
Don't get so comfy on that one. There is no such thing as a safe seat. Harry is only there at the sufferance of voters. If they tire of him, or want someone else, there is nothing Harry can do about it.
"And I guess mentioning Colleen is irrevelant since she and Nick are the most vulnerable city councillor to lose before Team-B gains majority on the council."
Unless T/B gets better campaign management and gets away from being
a paid job opportunity for the friends
of one particular person, T/B isn't going anywhere. They lost a few very good talented campaign volunteers, and the judgement of those in charge of nominations is crappy at best.
"She may become female NDP candidate shall she run for the nomination in Harry's riding, so I would suggest she think about it as NDP is running out of candidates, even if she is destined to lose.
It's not a given that she would run in Harry's riding or anywhere else, so I wouldn't sweat the small stuff.
The NDP would want a much stronger person to take out Harry, and more than a few people hope that they do.
This hero worship of Harry is getting
pathetic. The guy doesn't do things
100% right, 100% of the time, and his
attitude, poise, and respect for others has lots to be corrected.
The dynamics of the ridings in Burnaby have changed. With higher home prices most of that demographic have moved to Surrey. Thats why the NDP are doing well there.
"The dynamics of the ridings in Burnaby have changed. With higher home prices most of that demographic have moved to Surrey. Thats why the NDP are doing well there. "
Higher home prices doesn't nessesarily mean the end of the NDP in any region.
The NDP has quite a ways to go before
they "do well" in Surrey.
In Burnaby, they just have to find the right people, the people who the voters
would want.
In many instances it does come down to who the candidate is, rather than the Party.
it also comes down to which campaign is better organized and with better
quality volunteers to complete the task.
I think what we need is some leadership in this city. I'm getting sick and tired of all the fighting and backstabbing.
I never thought I would say this, but I think that I'm going to vote for that Bill Cunningham guy from the Liberals and I hate the Liberals.
We need someone who can talk like a normal human being
So the NDP didnt have good enough candidates last time? I would say the only one that was suspect would be Bart and he didnt lose by much. I wouldnt call Pietro a bad candidate as he was an mla four years earlier and got his ass kicked by Richard Lee again.
There is a message in there but NDPers in Burnaby are in denial.
The earlier comment about many of their core supporters moving out to Surrey is valid.
think what we need is some leadership in this city. I'm getting sick and tired of all the fighting and backstabbing.
If Harry Bloy and his friends would
face up to the fact that they're not
going to get everything they want in politics, and stop the power plays then
maybe things will be different.
I never thought I would say this, but I think that I'm going to vote for that Bill Cunningham guy from the Liberals and I hate the Liberals.
Then by association, you hate Bill Cunningham, since he is very much a part of the Liberals you hate.
Politically hate, mind you :-)
We need someone who can talk like a normal human being
That sure isn't Bill Cunningham nor Harry Bloy.
"So the NDP didnt have good enough candidates last time?"
Nope. The NDP could do better.
"I would say the only one that was suspect would be Bart and he didnt lose by much. "
There's no prizes for second place.
Either Bart wins or he's nothing. He'd
be a hero amongst a few politcial watchers if by chance he was able to
bump off Harry, but that's not going to happen.
"I wouldnt call Pietro a bad candidate as he was an mla four years earlier and got his ass kicked by Richard Lee again."
Just barely. But to his credit, Richard is personable and has taken care of his riding.
There is a message in there but NDPers in Burnaby are in denial.
They should be working their collective behinds off to ensure a BCA victory for Mayor and Council next time and then bump off John and Harry and keep Raj.
"The earlier comment about many of their core supporters moving out to Surrey is valid. "
Not nessesarily so. But technically yes, since the older ones (who were running things in the good old days) are selling the house and moving into condos in White Rock, but one hopes the senior Dippers are teaching the Junior Dippers the craft of good partisanship
and politics.
It's not the NDP dont want to run good candidates, they simply ran out of good ones. Bart Healy apparently was their only choice against Harry Bloy. Having Pietro embarass himself seems to be NDP's down doing. Gabriel Yiu was merely choice to prevent Mr. Democracy from getting the nomination.
They could have taken Burnaby like they did with the MP seats and city council and they missed it. It's like the Democrats losing 2000 election. The biggest embarrassment for NDP IMO was losing Burnaby North. The boundary redistribution is coming up soon, I sure hope that NDP wont run another weak campaign, it's just not exciting anymore:).
"It's not the NDP dont want to run good candidates, they simply ran out of good ones. "
They didn't look hard enough. They are
out there.
"Bart Healy apparently was their only choice against Harry Bloy."
Too bad though. A good strong candidate
can take out Harry. Harry is certainly
not a candidate to be feared. In many ways his way of politics is a joke, and can easily be overcome with the right formula.
"Having Pietro embarass himself seems to be NDP's down doing."
True.
"Gabriel Yiu was merely choice to prevent Mr. Democracy from getting the nomination. "
Mr.Democracy was a joke. Find a good
candidate who actually has real stuff inside and that candidat will be the next MLA for the NDP, no question.
:They could have taken Burnaby like they did with the MP seats and city council and they missed it. It's like the Democrats losing 2000 election."
The NDP was noticably weak. Curosity
too since the same people who work the federal and civic campaigns are the same ones that work the provincial campaigns.
"The biggest embarrassment for NDP IMO was losing Burnaby North. The boundary redistribution is coming up soon, I sure hope that NDP wont run another weak campaign, it's just not exciting anymore:). "
True. I'd like to see the NDP take out
Harry and also Burnaby Willingdon. Keep Bby. North for Richard Lee as that will force him to work far more harder than the guy has ever before.
It will be good for him.
It will be good for the BC Liberals. They are getitng too pompous and arrogant and need a good sharp political slap across the side of the head.
Bart should probably run again. Third time lucky.
I really dont think the NDP supported him properly and pretty well wrote him off in both elections.
In spite of this he did pretty well.
I suggest they should let him run again and support him better.
"Bart should probably run again. Third time lucky.
I really dont think the NDP supported him properly and pretty well wrote him off in both elections.
In spite of this he did pretty well.
I suggest they should let him run again and support him better. "
He proved to be one who can't make it.
The NDP needs someone much better.
The goal is to bump off Harry Bloy and
do that, the NDP will need a good
candidate.
The riding can be won.
Bart runnings depends on redistribution. Bloys riding could be totally different or the riding could be Coquitlam only which would probably cut Bart out of the equation.
"Bart runnings depends on redistribution. Bloys riding could be totally different or the riding could be Coquitlam only which would probably cut Bart out of the equation. "
Not nessesarily.
But the NDP should be able to find a better candidate than Bart to run against Harry, so that Harry is taken out for good.
Could be the problem is that the NDP cant find good candidates. Look at their current roster of members with old Glen Clark cronies, the Juice Business Man, and a sprinkling of Union people.
Sorry state of affairs.
Bart is typical of NDP candidates how will they get anyone better. Whatever better may mean.
Could be the problem is that the NDP cant find good candidates. Look at their current roster of members with old Glen Clark cronies, the Juice Business Man, and a sprinkling of Union people."
They aren't tyring hard enough.
This "Glen Clark" label is quite old.
Dated from 1996, at the time Gordon
Campbell did his pathetic "John Denver"
guitar act.
Juice Man is doing quite well in his riding though.
Sorry state of affairs.
Bart is typical of NDP candidates how will they get anyone better. Whatever better may mean.
The BC Liberals could have done better in a few ridings too.
Don't why some idiot decided that "Nick" is a mild Australian curse word. It isn't.
An Australian will use the infamous f-word like everyone else, even to Harry if he p-words the Australian off.
To Australians, "nick" is a substitute for "to steal", as in the federal Liberals 'nicked' taxpayer dollars during Adscam.
As for the course of things that the federal Liberals did (which was never paid back), that's fair dinkum, mates.
"But the NDP should be able to find a better candidate than Bart to run against Harry, so that Harry is taken out for good. "
Well, if they want to take Harry out that badly, they should run Nick V and let the drama continue. If redistribution doesnt happen to Harry's riding, I expect NDP to go aggressively after it.
On the BCA side, Dan cant wait to unseat/retire Corrigan and Piedro will do Richard Lee, but I dont see either Nick or Collen taking out Harry Bloy. If NDP wants to win the riding, I think it's Maxine (Coq. Mayor) that will help unseat him as the NDP Coquitlam City Councillors are simply that more electable than NDP Burnaby City Councillors who are relying solely on the union support. (In Coquitlam Donnelly and Lynch are both Golden Jubilee winners, and MLA Diane Thorpe also came out from this city council.) Nick will probably follow Colleen out of the council although I expect to see one of them running for the MLA in the near future.
"Well, if they want to take Harry out that badly, they should run Nick V and let the drama continue. "
The NDP is too smart to do that. It would be a dumb move on their part. It plays right into Harry's hands. A smarter thing would be to find a strong candidate who is hell-bent to win, but has no interest in continuing this pathetic sob soap opera led by
Harry.
"If redistribution doesnt happen to Harry's riding, I expect NDP to go aggressively after it."
Redistribution will happen. Bet on it.
The NDP will go after Harry whether redistribution will happen or not.
"On the BCA side, Dan cant wait to unseat/retire Corrigan and Piedro will do Richard Lee, but I dont see either Nick or Collen taking out Harry Bloy."
It's a fantasy that Nick or Colleen
taking out Harry. Isn't going to happen. She's too wimpy.
"If NDP wants to win the riding, I think it's Maxine (Coq. Mayor) that will help unseat him as the NDP Coquitlam City Councillors are simply that more electable than NDP Burnaby City Councillors who are relying solely on the union support."
The Bby City Councillors receive much more than just union support. The results say so.
"(In Coquitlam Donnelly and Lynch are both Golden Jubilee winners, and MLA Diane Thorpe also came out from this city council.)"
A medal is only good for showing friends and family. It doesn't gurantee an electoral win.
"Nick will probably follow Colleen out of the council although I expect to see one of them running for the MLA in the near future."
Don't bet your mortgage on that one.
Nick is too busy being a truck drivin'
son of a gun, with his ten speed hat, double clutchin' gear jammin' boots,
truckin' down Kingsway.
I dont know if it is a bit early to be speaking of the Derek Corrigan. But I think it is pretty clear that he wants Peter Julian's seat but there is no way for him to succeed Bill or Peter. I expect him to serve out to 2011 and probably never will have the chance to go federal. (Maybe he should go provincial next time and take on John Nuraney).
Derek Gang is putting its tight grip on Burnaby and their dominance will probably go on for a few more years. But Dan Johnson should know he can have any MLA seat if he really wants to, I wonder why he is serving under Corrigan. Life as a city councillor for 10 years has gotta be dry at some point.
"I dont know if it is a bit early to be speaking of the Derek Corrigan. But I think it is pretty clear that he wants Peter Julian's seat but there is no way for him to succeed Bill or Peter. "
Why does one think Corrigan wants Peter's seat? Corrigan could take the nomination if he worked it properly.
"I expect him to serve out to 2011 and probably never will have the chance to go federal. (Maybe he should go provincial next time and take on John Nuraney)."
Ain't going to happen, considering
that Corrigan lives in Nuraney's riding.
"Derek Gang is putting its tight grip on Burnaby and their dominance will probably go on for a few more years."
Sure it will. You can bet the mortgage on that one. The BCA isn't dumb.
Well not as dumb as Team Burnaby in its present form is.
"But Dan Johnson should know he can have any MLA seat if he really wants to, I wonder why he is serving under Corrigan. Life as a city councillor for 10 years has gotta be dry at some point."
Can be pretty peaceful if you're on the right side of the Mayor's chair
and like the interaction the citizenry.
Certainly alot nicer than having to dea with a micromanging Premier and a party that doesn't do much for its members except send out fundraising letters and put together exclusive
contributor's clubs which are nothing but a sham.
Derek was only elected as the mayor after 10 years on the council, which is a long time. He may be powerful, but he is not the leading figure in Burnaby. But Dan wont launch a campaign against him just yet, probably until the open race in 2011 when he will run for the nomination to become the mayor.
But you are overestimating Corrigan, two of his minions lost the last municipal election, and neither Peter or Bill "requires" his endorsement anymore. He has no chance taking out Peter since New West city council/MLA are all tightly behind Peter to ensure NDP reign over the city. He may have a shot against Bill, but I would think that Jack Layton has raised Bill's profile enough to deter any nominaton challengers, including Derek.
As for Derek going up against John for MLA, he will just take the seat by a margin, but I dont think that's where his ambition lies (it's likely federal and he probably doesnt want to take charge from the grandma premier).
"Derek was only elected as the mayor after 10 years on the council, which is a long time."
Not nessesarily. He was busy with his
law practice. Councillors don't spend
as much time as mayors do on city business. It's not a 4 days of the week job like Mayor is.
"He may be powerful, but he is not the leading figure in Burnaby."
He is now at the civic level.
"But Dan wont launch a campaign against him just yet, probably until the open race in 2011 when he will run for the nomination to become the mayor. "
Not going to happen Dan Johnson is
too light and wimpy for that to happen.
He's not mayor material.
"But you are overestimating Corrigan, two of his minions lost the last municipal election"
That's because in two instances the candidates didn't do their homework and lost their nominations over two light weights. They got too self-assured and didn't walk the walk, but talked the talk.
"and neither Peter or Bill "requires" his endorsement anymore.
Certainly not, considering that the BCA
runs both federal campaigns for the NDP. They don't need Corrigan's endorsement to win.
Endorsements don't mean anything except to the self-indulgent person who thinks they are important. Anyone who votes solely on the basis of endorsement is a fool.
"He has no chance taking out Peter since New West city council/MLA are all tightly behind Peter to ensure NDP reign over the city."
You haven't kept up. The NDP acclaimed
Peter Julian over the weekend. That contest is done.
"He may have a shot against Bill, but I would think that Jack Layton has raised Bill's profile enough to deter any nominaton challengers, including Derek."
The NDP doesn't put contestants up against their own incumbent MP's, if
that MP wants to run again. They never have and never well.
But the BC Liberals are also very protective of their own too. You think they would let just anyone go against Richard, John or Harry? Get real. The BC Liberals will ensure those nominations are fixed to the point where it's pointless to have them at all.
"As for Derek going up against John for MLA, he will just take the seat by a margin, but I dont think that's where his ambition lies (it's likely federal and he probably doesnt want to take charge from the grandma premier). "
Wrong again. Derek will only run if
the NDP are sure to make government.
Derek won't run just to end up in Opposition where the only thing he'll
be able to do is talk. H
If he did run, he'll take John out by
a large margin. The NDP are masters of getting their vote out.
They know how to campaign and how to tear the opposing campaign to pieces.
Burnaby is littered with the decomposed caracasses of candidates who took on the NDP and lost.
The agonizing screams of opposing candidates being eaten and savaged by the NDP are bone chilling.
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