Wednesday, November 29, 2006

Late delivery

Peter Julian and Jack Layton's NDP held a community forum this past Saturday to discuss Afghanistan. The Burnaby-New Westminster MP notified local residents of the gathering through his regular newsletter, whic arrived four days after the event.

Maybe it is time for an investigation into Canada Post by the crusading local politician. Together with the anti-lumber agreement stance, that collection of issues should allow Julian re-election to a third term against three newcomer opponents from the Liberals, Conservatives, and Greens.

10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this is more of an indication of NDP efficiency. Thank god they are not running the country it would be a comedic disaster.

11/30/2006 8:50 PM  
Blogger George the Reformer said...

Any word on who's running for the Conservative nominations in New West Co and Burnaby Douglas?

12/01/2006 10:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Peter will need another issue to crusade against, since the softwood lumber agreement is a done deal.

perhaps a meeting to rail against Canada Post's inadequate service and their delivering his newsletter late might be in order.

paid for by the taxpayer of course..

12/01/2006 11:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There used to be that Coquitlam Politics site. Wish it was back.

12/01/2006 10:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. There is some definite reaching going on on this one. First of all, it was a joint meeting put on by Bill Siksay and Peter Julian, therefore Burnaby Douglas and Burnaby New Westminster. And in spite of the snivelling going on here, at least 6 conservative supporters, including Ryan Wa Wa Wa Warawa, the self proclaimed "Burnaby New Westminster Conservative candidate" as he was advertising himself earlier in the day at the Burnaby Edmonds Christmas Parade.

And bitching about community outreach and a community forum, on a hot button topic such as the war in Afghanistan, as in this cute quote...

"perhaps a meeting to rail against Canada Post's inadequate service and their delivering his newsletter late might be in order.

paid for by the taxpayer of course."

The conservatives in this area must be running around with scarred heads, from setting their hair on fire over such things.

I attended the forum, which for whatever reason, including rather inclement weather, was attended by approximately 15 people, including the aforementioned conservative contingent. It's funny that a high profile wanna be candidate such as Mr. Wa Wa Warawa could make it to the event, yet all the navel gazers on this site choose to sit there and bitch and whine about not knowing about it.

It was further interesting to watch Mr. Wawara involunarily videotape people who attended and participated in that forum, as I didn't see a media credential around his neck, as opposed to the Province reporter that was there. One would hope that Mr. Wawara would be cautious in how he uses his newly video, though from what I gathered from the forum, the 2 speakers, Michael Byers and Lauren, who's last name escapes me, were the featured attractions.

For those who care, who couldn't be there, there was a good debate between the 2, and the people who attended voiced their concerns and viewpoints over the positions taken by the respective debators, as well as using the opportunity to voice their own opinions and viewpoints on what is and will always be, a controversial, gut wrenching topic for the average canadian.

Both Peter and Bill should be congratulated for holding the event, and those who attended, including Mr. Wawara and his contingent of people, for taking the time to attend and be heard on that topic. That being said... please continue on with the navel gazing, whining, snivelling that you were on before.

12/05/2006 11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Both Peter and Bill should be congratulated for holding the event"

Typical NDP grumpiness.

The event was a waste of time.

Note to the NDP. The President of Afghanistan is very grateful for CF personnel being there to help rebuild the country and try and remove the Taliban from Kandahar. He said so in the House of Commons on his visit to Canada.

If the Afghani government didn't want the CF being there, they would be aboard their C-130's on their way back home.

Another publicity event by an MP who doesn't know what he's talking about.

15 people in an auditorium that easily holds 300 (150 when divided).

Pathetic.

But this is a party that has a leader who figures the best way to resolve the problems in Afghanistan is to have tea with the Taliban leadership and come to a gentleman's agreement.

Note to the NDP: The Taliban are absolutely absymal when it comes to women's rights. For women, no school, no going out in public, no showing the face.

and for everyone, no music, no sports,
nothing to ensure there is means of happiness.

Yep I'm sure Olivia Chow would endorse all of those things.

12/07/2006 9:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The President of Afghanistan is very grateful for CF personnel being there to help rebuild the country and try and remove the Taliban from Kandahar. He said so in the House of Commons on his visit to Canada."

He also stated that the situation requires a diplomatic solution, not a straight military solution, and that its not just as simple as "kill the Taliban". There's geo political games being played in this region. Pakistan, India, Iran are all monkeying around in and around Afghanistan, but indirectly. The answer isn't a simple one at all. And by the way, how can you tell a taliban from an afghani or a so called ally? The Taliban in fact are a coalition of various islamic factions. But that's ok, I wouldn't want to take away any of your reasons for bashing the NDP or Peter Julian for that fact. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

"has a leader who figures the best way to resolve the problems in Afghanistan is to have tea with the Taliban leadership and come to a gentleman's agreement." Unless Rick Hillier has all the sudden become a co leader of the NDP, I would say that there are several people inside and outside the military that believe a diplomatic solution has to be found.

No one's suggesting a return to power for the Taliban. Have you heard that at all from anyone, or are you extrapolating that assumption from a statement made about finding a diplomatic solution to what's going on in Afghanistan.

It seems you want a black and white solution, and want to colour the issue black and white. Here's a newsflash for you... it's far from a black and white situation. Much like Iraq, like Vietnam, do you truly know who the real enemy is? Could you point out a taliban person to me? what makes them stand out from an average afghani?

Aside from their actions. Canada should assist the afghanis in rebuilding their country. Give them some infrastructure, some security, build up their domestic forces, and assist in cleaning up the entire cluster %&*$ of the warlords and factions etc.

This is a multifaceted operation, but frankly, right now, its all about combat missions and nothing else. It requires diplomacy to fix it, not just war.

But I can gather you weren't at the forum a couple weeks ago, because as you have previously stated, "you just sit in the stands" I was there, and I didn't hear Peter, Bill, Jack, Michael, Lauren or anyone else in that room suggest for a minute allowing the taliban back into government. And that goes for the 6 or so conservatives that were there.



"Another publicity event by an MP who doesn't know what he's talking about."

Well, it was a forum sponsored by (for the umpteenth time) 2 members of parliament. You seem obsessed and focused on one particular one, Peter Julian.

"15 people in an auditorium that easily holds 300 (150 when divided)Pathetic."

Hmmm. I made it there, but the weather for one was frankly, bloody awful. The roads were starting to become a little tricky, and really, maybe people didn't want to risk getting stuck or something. But to try and blame the organizers of the event for the poor turnout, try keeping that lighter away from your hairspray when your doing your hair next time. The event was put on about an issue that does resonate in the community. And if you're so troubled by Peter and his actions, what stopped you from coming out and saying so. As I said, Wawara and others made it out, why couldn't you? Frankly it's because you don't have the courage of your convictions to come out and stand up and back up what you say on here.

Once again, I go back to that sidelines comment you made in another forum.

Note to you... it would be nice if you would stop misrepresenting what people (NDP and non NDP alike) are saying about the situation in Afghanistan. No one wants the Taliban back in, and everyone is quite aware of their record. I don't frankly think you'll take the advice, but until you're willing to come off the bench and get into the game, your voice will always be that much more silent.

12/07/2006 11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Peter Julien is a spineless a*hole who has zero intelligence when it comes to issues like softwood or Canada's role in the world. He is taking the lead of Taliban Jack.

12/08/2006 2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical NDP

nag nag nag..

spend spend spend.

12/11/2006 10:26 PM  
Blogger Ryan said...

The videos I took are posted on The Warawa Report:
http://warawa.blogspot.com/2006/12/why-canadas-troops-must-stay-in.html

For the record, I did not advertise myself as the "Burnaby New Westminster Conservative Candidate" in the Edmonds Parade. My float advertised my campaign: "Campaign To Elect Ryan Warawa".

12/21/2006 2:56 PM  

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